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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 11 points 16 hours ago

Hopefully SteamOS Desktop is released some months before then, so that people have a comfy Linux to welcome them.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 16 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

People aren't just rejecting it and staying on 10. they are actively downgrading (going back to windows 10) or leaving the windows ecosystem entirely for Linux. Someone actually went out of their way to tally up and explain all the shit MS broke over the course of the last year. It's a ridiculous number of things.

[–] hornedfiend@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know about such claims. I've just finished installing W10 on one of my laptops.

Use case? BMW coding tools are only built for Windows and using them via wine doesn't really work.

As a long time Linux use I can't even describe what I'm feeling right now.

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[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

Yep. I have 1 app that requires Windows (or Mac) that I use once every 4 or 5 weeks. I run Win 10 in a VM for that.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 109 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Even I, a long long long and ooooold ms-fanboy finally ditched win11 in fear of the copilot shit hole that's coming.

And now I regret not having switched years earlier. Everything is a lot better now, and those things that are worse are just worse because companies hate Linux (looking at Logitech et al).

And when even I left windows (I do have every certificate from them, sold hundreds of thousands of licenses and whatnot) that tells something 😔 sadly so, I might add.

Long story short: fuck copilot.

[–] armandoenlachamba@piefed.social 33 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Copilot is not the problem. If Copilot was just one more program (like Notepad or Paintbrush), I wouldn't have an issue with it. But Microsoft (and other companies) insist in putting it every-fucking-where. Like in Notepad? WHY?! So yeah, fuck Microsoft.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago

Yes totally. They're a company, they want to make money. Sure, fine. But if things stop being optional (or at least uninstallable like fucking onedrive) then I get pissed.

When I want AI, I start one. But in settings? In notepad? In my coffemachine and nutsack-warmer? Noooooo.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 15 points 21 hours ago

Like in Notepad? WHY?! So yeah, fuck Microsoft.

It's the equivalent of a drugs dealer that starts throwing their product in people's faces just to get more people hooked, but the product is so nasty almost everyone runs away screaming.

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[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not exactly rejecting it, but I can't afford to build a new computer that can run it till the AI bubble bursts.

[–] mynona@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

It's not a popular answer but you can get by with an older PC running Linux KVM. Windows 11 is fine as a guest OS, unless you need kernel level DRM from some applications.

[–] kokimys@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

Try to get a simple Linux distribution instead (Mint or Ubuntu). Depending on what you are using your computer for it might be just as good, even faster, than windows.

[–] RalfWausE@feddit.org 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Just to be a bit heretical: Its absolutely possible to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware, look up Rufus, download the ISO from Microsoft and on you go.

I have managed to get it running on a NUC with a two core and 2 GB RAM after also running a debloat script.

edit: Completed post after my 3 year old crashed into me sending the phone into the neitherworld under the couch

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

My office jumped ship at XP, it was that bad. We went to Linux because getting work done was actually more important.

So many things finally caught up, we did a lot of server client things with the Linux stack for field offices.

Now they call it the cloud. Which means it isn't your server.

XP started the enshittification and it continued year after year...

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In the micorosft line? Yes. Windows ID started here, telemetry, pushing their software, licensing schemes that only put you in control if you had a corporate key and so on.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago

I think people hate win11 outside of Germany too. Lookup how to switch win 10 to iot ltsc (aka alphabet soup) I did this quickly and easily with the only issues being desktop icons rearranged (take a screen grab reference Prior if you care) and unfortunately my automatic updates don't work for some reason (I've seen rumors about drive parti on issues maybe being the reason) but I can download and install updates manually still until 2032.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Windows is being re-written from the ground up to be 'agentic'. This means that Copilot is not going to be a feature of Windows, Windows is going to be a feature of Copilot.

Oh, and Copilot is going to be writing the code too. Microslop brags that 30% of their code is AI.

[–] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Windows is being re-written from the ground up

I know they say that but you know there's still Windows 95 code still in there so I don't believe them at all. It's just smoke and mirrors for the shareholders.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Code? There is still win 95 UI in windows 10

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[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hey hey, let's be honest here, bragged, it's been 9 months or so by now. Who knows how much of windows is vibecoded at this point, it might be as high as 50%.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 11 points 21 hours ago

By the way microslop is doing emergency patch after emergency patch, vibe coding windows isn't the brag they thought it was.

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[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

I've got till 2032 I'm good. Then I'll switch to Linux which will hopefully by then be better than windows at running windows games.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It already is actually. Proton driver's are great.

[–] Kjell@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Mandatory reference to Protondb, which lists how well every game performs on Linux. 84 % of the top 100 games on Steam are rated as gold or platinum.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's very well done. Only issue is anything with kernel level anticheats, need windows. Fuck that, so many great games besides gtav and call of duty.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some games with Kernel level anti-cheat still have linux support, though. It‘s always worth checking because some game devs actually care about Linux when you would expect the don‘t.

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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So i lost my lol addiction, is that a negative?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on what you're doing with your spare time. Do you feel a load was lifted off your shoulders or left on your face?

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[–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Win10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is the good one.

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[–] sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Ummm... Yes, Proton was already mentioned in this thread so I won't repeat it. But I'm curious which problems you have with games on Linux or did you just repeat what was true 5 (?) years ago.

Don't get me wrong: I tried gaming on linux when proton wasn't even remotely in the pipeline and it was ~~horrible~~ impossible. When I first heard about proton I tried again and ran into issues with the first game I tried (Europa Universalis 4, the new Paradox launcher was broken at the time) so I jumped ship again. Then I tried again in early 2025 and haven't looked back since then. There hasn't been a single game I tried that didn't work (although some games needed some tinkering but that's where protondb comes to rescue). There is one game I'd like to play (The Crew 2) that doesn't work because of it's anti cheat. But apart from that: Great experience!

You see, I get where you might be coming from but maybe don't way until 2032 and give it a try again?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I've been gaming exclusively on Linux for a few years now, and I can say Bethesda games, and specifically modding Bethesda games. That shit works a well as can be expected on windows, and if you keep the mod list light, can actually run better than vanilla.

I will say, the free Fallout 4 creation club content good enough as far as light modding goes, and runs extremely well.

Skyrim on the other hand, would honestly probably be fine if their creation club had half the mods that I want to play with.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

they were hounding me every fucking day on my only windows device, so I blocked all windows update domains on my pihole.

I don't use it often, but use it to do 3D modeling/slicing.

[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I just use Wine and feel good. Feel good!

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[–] Adeptus_Obsoletus@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There is currently an ongoing isssue with Chromium/Electron rendering being almost-unusable with VRR. It was first reported almost a year ago. Microsoft doesn't care enough to fix it. But hey, at least you get Copilot so it can tell you what registry tweak you have to add to fix it yourself!

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