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French President Emmanuel Macron has urged Europe to assert itself on the world stage, saying it is time to start acting like a "power".

In the face of growing threats from China, Russia and now the US, he told a group of European newspapers that the continent faced a "wake-up call".

"Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.

"In another era we might have said it is the moment to 'assume our majority'," he said ahead of an EU summit in Brussels later this week.

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[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

I know how much the French hate Macron (with good reasons), but you can't really argue against these points. Some things gotta happen. Federilization, another voting system etc. Otherwise EU will be undermined and destroyed by the superpowers and become a lot of small versailstates. We cant find in this world, when bound on hands and feet by a few orbans here and there..

[–] amsphear@chatgptjailbreak.tech 7 points 17 hours ago

I'd much rather see Europe rule the world than the US.

[–] HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Problem is - if you look at how "World Powers" behave, do you really wanna live in such countries?

Which Europeans would just love to invade neighbors like Russia and USA?

Which Europeans would love to deregulate their countries in order to enrich elites like USA?

Or perhaps which Europeans would love to live under state surveillance while their country buys out foreign infrastructure like China?

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 19 points 1 day ago

Long past time. United we stand, divided we fall.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Indeed we should. So long as this doesn't mean that we move towards being isolationists, imperialists or Nazi's.

[–] homes@piefed.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You guys do have a bit of a habit with those things…

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The first thing a Global Power Europe does is invade and colonize North Africa.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Rome 2, this time they have nukes

[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

Rome 2 was the Holy Roman Empire. supposedly.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Europe never stopped being Rome.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean if you disregard everything except geography sure.

[–] ewo@piefed.ca 1 points 18 hours ago
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you are already imperialists.

just don't mess with overt fascism again.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That means cutting ties with Israel and the Zionist oligarchs trying to implement mass surveillance. They don’t seem to understand that basic reality though because they keep trying to force the digital ID through Zionist Larry Ellisons company Oracle onto their populace.

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[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does Europe have any power? If yes, then Ukraine is the perfect place to demonstrate it. Imagine how powerful 1 million artillery shells per month would look. A hundred tanks and planes per month would look powerful too. Thousand missiles per month might send the powerful message too.

Talking and urging isn't powerful.

[–] arrrse@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The problem with eu is 27 different nations who have their own agendas and goals and mostly everyone wants to keep it that way. Unlike russia and china and soon usa, EU is a democracy and in a democracy talking and urging is necessary. Its a shame that it's come to this but im hoping that eu becomes a federation or something like that to maybe make it a bit more efficient and keep up / repel the others

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the better way is a federation but not for everything. Only for diplomacy, defense and little more. At least as a first step. That way there's no possibility of having an uberpressident that can do the same Trump is doing.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Essentially, united on foreign policy but not domestic (barring stuff like human rights)? Superficially it seems sensible enough.

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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Ok prove it by stopping Russia from slaughtering your own fucking neighbor

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Thats what they have been doing for years now. The EU is the main source of equipment and funding for Ukraine.

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[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No. They are not ready. If all your computers and phones "phone home" with "home" being your adversary's country (that's how USA deals with Europe in the last year), then you cannot call yourself a world power. Most PCs in Europe use Windows and MacOS. Almost all phones are either Android or iOS. And even if they managed to replace all the software with locally developed Linux, all recent (last 20 years) x86 PCs have either Intel Management Engine or AMD Security Technology. If they chose to make intensive efforts to replace their systems, computers and phones, it would take at least a decade to achieve this. And even then, the US would likely be able to penetrate their systems. It's so much easier to yield to the Emperor of the Western World for the perennially submissive European serfs.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 20 hours ago

And nearly all US computer hardware is manufactured in China. What's your point?

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

RISC-V ftw!

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

As long as it's not France's idea of being a power... I have no interest in colonialism.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah i truly dont like how France treats colonies. Like that one time they helped some colonist to get free from the british and now we have to deal with USA and its bullshit.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This is like telling Lemmy US leftists that they need to start reinforcing their communities and getting social and start grassroots movements to get better representation in their states.

It's a great message, but the mob is too varied and complacent to actually treat the situation as dire as it really is.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He's right.

They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power. You can't trust the US when we're on our second consecutive brain-damaged president in a row.

Yeah, what a fantastic idea: let's give the Orban's and the Meloni's of Europe (stable geniuses one and all) things that go boom and make a nice mushroom cloud.

Fantastic.

We already have two nuclear powers in Europe.

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