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I am trying to use my old laptops for self-hosting. One has a 6th gen Intel Core i3 (4GB ram), the other has an 11th gen Intel Core i5 (8GB ram). I have previously tried both ubuntu server and desktop but couldn't get it to work well. For the former I found it difficult to remote ssh and the latter I had difficulty installing Docker containers. (I'm not very good with the command line)

I would like to find an OS that is easier to setup with less of a neccesity for the command line (I would still like to learn how to use it though, I don't want to get rid of it entirely!). I've heard of CasaOS, is that a good option? It seems quite easy to use. What about other alternatives?

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[–] dave@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

i tried CasaOS for a quick minute. its decent and just has the basics like setting up any disks and then has an app store. its really just a front end for docker and you can manually input the details of any docker containers that arent in the store

ive mostly been running docker stuff on my Synology nas. cant think of the model number now, 218+ i think, but any of the "plus" models will let you run docker. its very similar to Casa, no messing around with command line stuff. ive been self hosting for 10 years now and never touched the command line so i dont know what people are on about here saying you will have trouble

dietpi is another thing ive used on a few devices, mainly small SBCs and raspberry pi's, but i think they might have a version that you can install on anything. its basically just debian, and it has a sort of a wizard that helps set up various things like set up disks and install apps. its headless though so no GUI unless you install one, and the wizard is run from the terminal but youre not having to type any commands at least

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

I am very much a Windows user and my journey went like this:
Raspberry Pi with OMV -> SSH on OMV -> Mostly Terminal on OMV -> Docker + Portainer to deploy containers -> Transition to docker-compose -> Setup my own VM with Debian completely in the CLI (excluding the first setup of the VM)

I use Linux (primarily Debian because of Raspberry. I don't lile what I hear about Ubuntu) usually for VMs/servers and Windows as the client OS

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Mint or Ubuntu is like Windows but better.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not trying to be unhelpful. My advice would be to steer into the terminal. Bite the bullet. I use arch and alpine for my servers but Fedora would be fine (but SELinux can be a pain with bund mounts)

Probably just go with Fedora with btrfs for snaps. It has lots of support and is a common choice for servers

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah ~~kind of~~ totally agree. Trying to self host without using the terminal would be like trying to drive a car without touching the steering wheel with your hands. It’s possible but dangerous and cumbersome.

Don’t let it scare you. Get something installed to let you build some VMs to play around without worries (Virtualbox, VM Workstation, parallels), and install a distribution like Debian, Ubuntu, Mint and start to play. To self host all you really need is learning some basic file manipulation (move,copy,remove), how to edit text files (vi,emacs,nano), and the basic directory structure. That will get you 90% of the way there. When you see things like awk, sed, grep ask an AI to explain it, they are actually useful for that. These sort of commands start getting into advanced things like output redirection and regex which can be EXTREMELY confusing. Heck I have a CS degree, been in IT for almost 30 years, and I’ve been using Linux since the mid 90s and some of that still confuses me. So basically don’t fret if it’s too confusing, you are totally not alone. Play, screw up, try to fix it, curse, read a lot, try again, realize it’s toast, start over. Honestly I think I just described my job 😂

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

How do you troubleshoot Alpine? The one time I tried (later needed to use Debian because the OS was not supported) I could almost only find ressources in conjunction with containerization.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I guess you could install cockpit (via Terminal, sorry, but it's pretty straightforward and there are good guides). After that, you could use the cockpit web interface to deploy docker/podman containers. It's a bit clunky sometimes, but it does the job purely in UI.

You can also manage updates, backups, etc via cockpit if you install the required modules.

As base, I'd use any stable Linux distro that's reccomended for server use.

[–] techognito@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

https://cockpit-project.org/

for more info for those interested

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I believe all of these are actually just running Debian as the actual OS underneath, but they give you a webui that makes deploying apps easier.

Of these three, I like the look of Cosmos the most. Seems to be security focused and comes with a reverse proxy and a built in SSO solutions. That’s something that’s usually a pain in the ass to set up yourself.

There’s technically that stupid ass LTT OS but I’m purposely leaving that one out.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Cosmos does look quite good. TrueNAS can't run on my old laptops so HexOS was never really an option

[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I went with Truenas Scale and was pleasantly surprised it needed no command line kung fu

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

TrueNAS scale seems like the perfect option, the only downside is that my old laptops don't meet the hardware requirements

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Like RAM?
Not that important. I ran it with ¼-½ of the recommended RAM (1GB RAM per TB)

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I tried installing an ISO and it black screened. weird.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

If you’re afraid of the terminal, you won’t get far in self hosting. You should learn to use the terminal. It’s not as scary as people make it sound.

You mentioned having issues with SSH into your old server. You can install a desktop environment if it makes things easier for you, but you should still learn how to be proficient in the terminal. Proxmox might help. It lets you create and manage VMs through a web interface. It can be annoying if you’re not super familiar with networking though.

[–] Mavytan@feddit.nl 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Could you recommend a source for learning how to use the command line? In the past I struggled with understanding the basic commands and the various flags. I've found it difficult to find good documentation, but I would like to learn

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Find a problem or project that requires the terminal to solve it, follow the instructions laid out, and execute. Once you’ve done it, try tolook back at what you did and understand exactly what was going on under the hood. You can’t just “study terminal“ or something, the best way to learn is by doing. Just come up with simple things that need it. For instance, a Linux distribution that requires you to download a few drivers. That’s a really good building block right there. Gets you to understand how to navigate file paths on your computer from your terminal, how to know where to look for things and such

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It’s been a long time since I learned, so I don’t remember exactly what I used, but at a cursory glance, this one looks good:

https://www.terminaltutor.com/

Also, learning to read man pages will help a lot. Here’s an article on that:

https://itsfoss.com/linux-man-page-guide/

I do remember using “terminal cheat sheets” like this:

https://phoenixnap.com/kb/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/linux-commands-cheat-sheet-pdf.pdf

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

TBF ChatHPT is probably your best bet

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Edit: Comment was in wrong place, refiled as op level comment.

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[–] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

For what it's worth given the age of this thread and disagreement going on in it, I would recommend Unraid.

Easy for a beginner, with enough to take you up to intermediate level: a web GUI for pretty much all the required terminal commands. It's been around for years, is not going away, but instead getting updated. Works on any old eBay hardware and most of all, the community there are very supportive of beginners. There's also lots of YouTube tutorials.

It ticks all the boxes for easy self hosting. It's just not for Linux protocol purists.

[–] WQMan@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I personally use Debian. For your case, you can install lightweight desktop environments such as XFCE.

Honestly from my point of view after reading your post, you don't have a terminal or operating system issue, it feels like you are new to self-hosting and don't know how to start configuring from scratch.

Ideally you want to look for documentations or keep asking for online help. For example, with installing docker, you would want to refer to this: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/. Welcome to system admin life, where you spend more time reading/understanding than configuring.

Personally, you can even use AI Chatbot to help you with stuff, just be specific on the system you are on, the goal you are trying to achieve and the problem you are tring to solve.


Which brings me to answer your next point about CasaOS: It exists so that you can skip most of the 'system admin life' step. It skips almost all the setup you would have needed to do on a fresh machine, and just leaves configurations. The downside is usually it eats up more resources than a self-configured install since it comes with redundant features you are unlikely to use.

TLDR; Pre-configured OS such as CasaOS is a solid choice if you just want to set it up and be done with it. If you are here to really learn about system admin stuff, then pick any of the Linux Operating system (Debian-derivatives recommended) with a lightweight DE.

Happy self hosting :v

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Okay, so CasaOS is easier to set up (but uses more resources and I won't learn sysadmin stuff) whereas using something like Debian is a bit harder to set up (but uses less resources and learn more!).

Think I might try CasaOS on my 11th gen laptop and plain Debian on my 6th gen laptop and see which I prefer

[–] mhz@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe you might find home in one of those NAS ootimized distros like Openmediavault, truenas, unraid. If not CasaOS or old good Debian with portainer.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm all for command line, but I'm the kind of person who needs a dashboard, otherwise I forget everything. OMV has a solid dashboard and has been really good for me.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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