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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Open source your code and then you will have a leg to stand on about trust. Right now it's just "trust me bro" when you have proven record of being lying piece of shit.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That wouldnt even help much. The issue is them being in control of the servers and that its not e2ee. Even if the client is open source, they still get all the data and control.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If their claims are true then it would help. They claim that they process everything locally and only sends the check to the server. But again, there is literally no reason to trust any word they say without being able to verify it ourselves. Proprietary systems should never be used for this.

Also their liability avoidance doesn't inspire confidence. Discord outsources the liability to k-ID and k-ID outsourced the liability to Privately.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Im talking about message content, images, contact networks, behavioural patterns, etc.

As long as its not e2ee all that can be inferred from just the serverside data even if the client sends only whats necessary. And the last two even if it were e2ee.

This whole ID thing is just the tip of the iceberg. People are just blind to all the spying that was already happening without them noticing.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That goes without question, but my comment was directed at ID services, not Discord itself.

Yeah i realized that now :)

Bro has a cold. 

"Trust be bro"

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m in the process of switching my two communities to Matrix. It’s not bad from a user point of view, but running your own server is such an enormous pain in the ass. Like, way harder than it should be.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You mean actually hosting a matrix server, like a Docker instance or something, or do you mean having a room (channel? Topic?) on a public matrix server?

I've never done either. Is it even possible to have a private room on a public server?

[–] tar@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it even possible to have a private room on a public server?

certainly

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I've never tried to create a room.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean actually hosting a Matrix server. Like, on my own hardware. It’s very difficult to set up. Especially if you want audio/video.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry to hear it! You wouldn't THINK it'd be that hard ...

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

I've been struggling to accomplish this, and I'm familiar with self hosting. It's brutal. But now that discord has shit the bed (even more) I think I can finally convince my friends to move to it, so I'm taking another crack at a matrix/element server

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago

that new CEO doesn't waste time

[–] Sidhean@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm checking out Stoat, and its giving me infinite captchas. Its not fake or something, right?

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have used Stoat for awhile. It works. I think they've been bombarded with new signups so it's kind of taking their system down. But hopefully they get back up and running. It's a great opportunity for them right now.

[–] Sidhean@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Good to hear; I like their vibe. I wish it would have errored out instead of fucking with me, but thats tech for you lol. Sitting in the infinite captcha queue, I still feel more respected than I do every time I open discord lol.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Discord news is hugging them to death. If you get past the captchas the email verification takes 24h to arrive and is expired when it does. It’s fine. I’m patient.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Welcome to Lemmy, where there are easy open alternatives that don't actually work or need 300 lines of new code weekly.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I had the same issue the other day when I tried to check it out. I think they don't like VPNs.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago