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[–] Imperor@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (34 children)

This AR obsession is utterly baffling to me. There are so few real applications and the hardware requirements are insane so it's not something that will get widely adapted anyway. Sure in a decade or so it might have matured enough to have shed all these issues, but AR/VR feels like a really out of touch thing to prusue, especially if you look at the garbage ideas they have on how to use it - virtual meetings??

I get movies and games on these, possibly even some recording and porn, but these are not their B2B wet dreams anyway.

What should they be pursuing now? They have state of the art chips, tablets, phones, laptops and even all in one desktops, the only thing they don't have are TV's, at this point why not try to conquer the next frontier. even if it takes a decade?

[–] osef897@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

overlaying ads on literally everything could be the end goal.

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I’d really just like some glasses that simulate multiple monitors without needing special software. That’s all I want

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This AR obsession is utterly baffling to me.

  • It's a mobile phone you don't need to hold.

  • It's a mobile phone that never goes in your pocket.

  • It's a mobile phone that is always on and has access to everything you see and hear.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It’s a bummer than those sound like bad things simply because corporate abuse is always a forgone conclusion. If your data was truly private and always entirely under your control and ONLY your control, those would be really attractive features.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

Some implementations also have the problem of constantly pointing cameras at non-consenting passers-by.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Totally. I'd also love to train a LLM on my own personal data and preferences, but there is no way I'm trusting a corporation that information.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a fucking nightmare, but a wet dream to Big Tech.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

That's pill. They just have to sugar coat it enough for everyone to swallow it (like we did with phones).

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[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

It's been over a decade since the oculus rift came out and there hasn't been much improvement.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

A Quest 3 isn't "insane." It does AR just fine for a few hundred bucks. There ARE real world applications and more coming all the time. The education and medical fields in particular can benefit greatly from such tech.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Guess what Tim Apple? No one wants them just like no one wanted your stupid headset that I honestly can't even remember what it was called.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Well I do want this, augmented/virtual reality is exactly the kind of shit I dreamt about as a kid during the 90's, and having a huge screen available anywhere I go is pretty fucking cool.

But yeah, I used a VR headset exactly once for like 5 minutes, and there's no way in hell I'd buy one from meta or apple. If Valve releases good XR/AR glasses I might consider it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It sounds cool in theory, but modern tech companies aren't going to make what you wanted as a kid. Whatever they make will be heavily enshittified.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

Hold on a second. For it to be enshittified, it has to be good at the beginning, and I highly doubt that’s possible.

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[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 46 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Being able to keep a screen in front of the user at all times is the goal. This is one step closer to replacing the eyes Cyberpunk style.

This is why Siri and Apple Intelligence is so important to Apple, getting away an actual keyboard will make this more addicting. They can decide what to show you before you even start thinking about it!

Corporations would love being able to not only know where you are at all times, but now they have the tech to see exactly what you see!

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

it’s not that complicated, the goal is to create another hit product that everyone wants like the ipod and iphone.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a gag in Futurama about ads being displayed in your dreams. If that were possible they'd be doing that, but right now they're settling for just the waking hours.

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I’d be interested to hear from the youngest generation (15-20 YO) to hear if they care about this at all.

I’m approaching 50 years old and had been an early adopter most of my adult life. Growing up from the 1980s through 2000s, there was a near-mainstream narrative that we were living in a unique era of emerging technologies. It was exciting and we were anxious for anything new.

It seems to me that nothing is really new and there is nothing exciting, if not interesting, about technology today.

I’ve actually been stripping down the technology from my life as it’s become too distracting to get things done and has prevented personal growth and the formation of memories. For one example, I recently subscribed to a print magazine because I prefer a tangible object that I can associate with in and of itself (and choose to own and collect).

Looking at analog trends like vinyl records and film photography and cassette tapes, it seems like people are at least trying to incorporate tangible objects into a modern lifestyle. Then you have the trend of the dumb phones which indicate people are becoming more aware of the detriments caused by an always connected lifestyle. Thankfully, some car manufacturers are returning buttons to their cars in response to owner feedback about everything being a touch screen.

I mean, I’m not a multi-trillion dollar organization with different departments studying the feasibility of future products but I do wonder if something like AR glasses are already more of our past than our future.

I think there’s a more than reasonable desire for a device to help you through your day - especially in foreign countries. But do you think you want that to be glasses or something else?

Lastly, this reminds me of the prediction from Michio Kaku in Physics of the Future about augmented reality contact lenses. Should we at least accept AR glasses as first step towards contact lenses? Do you think society would accept these 20-40 years in the future?

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm in that age range and while I enjoy VR (VRchat is one of my most played games), I think at a certain point AR is "going too far". The current AR technology in the quest 3 is nice, good enough I don't need more. Being able to watch vids on a big screen anywhere in my house is enough.

Apple and meta though I think they want an all encompassing device that you wear all the time that replaces the phone, and thats a step too far. People already spend enough time on there phones when uts a single tiny screen, I don't think it would be good for attention spans to be able to spawn in infinite floating windows at any time.

You can kinda already have 6 floating windows on the quest 3 which is too much stimulation for a single person and I don't think its good for society to have this. I think if it can get a form factor similar to glasses (which I doubt is possible), people will buy it and get addicted.

Current day vr is like the polar opposite of the future AR that they want anyways. VR games force you to only focus on the current thing, because you are in the game, can't alt tab or look at your phone while in loading screens or watch youtube while gaming. This kinda forces you to do it in moderation.

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

This is just another attempt to capture even more control over our attention - advertising everywhere. Of course Apple wants it

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