It’s so sad that we love shitting in younger generations and we love making things harder for them. This isn’t a new concept btw. Americas been doing that for generations
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Correlation =/= causation. Somehow other countries did it right? So maybe it's just US thing
No it isn’t. Finland did the same thing and now our schools are fucked up.
No, what's messed up education in Finland is that it's much, much harder now to fail and hold back a student. The semi-equivalent of the USA's No Child Left Behind policy.
Schools here in Finland still use plenty of books, and at least they still teach how to use computers, like typing lessons, unlike the USA.
Here in Masala they even started teaching classes about detecting AI use, it's usage in propaganda, and privacy on the internet plus usage of AdBlockers in elementary school. My wife gave the lessons - though she changed it up on the second one after seeing that kids don't really care about this stuff much unless framed differently, like "you can watch YouTube without ads" rather than "it's your legal right to not have ads as children" and "Linux has many many free games" for example.
Why do you think other countries did it right? Does the article say that kids in other countries are smarter?
I suspect that if Gen Z designed their own cognitive tests, their tests would determine that we older generations were less cognitively capable than them.
The reality is that every generation adapts in different ways to fit their own cognitive circumstances, and one generation’s metric is at best an imperfect match for another—“cognitive capacity” can’t be objectively measured.
The problem isn’t keyboards it’s the policies and reasoning.
Meanwhile we’re integrating AI into classrooms. Surely nothing bad will come from that.
Probubbly cuz you gave the tools and didn't begin the process of using it for schools, dumbasses.
Right? I've seen plenty of people who don't know how to swing a hammer.
lol, I mostly ditched textbooks in high school not to support technology, but because I was tired of carrying around huge books in my backpack, the bulk of which I wouldn't even need on a daily basis. Lo and behold, even 14 years ago, I could find pdf versions of most of my textbooks, some of which were offered officially from the publisher for free via the school.
The problems are the enshittification of the internet, the attention economy and the superb lack of American educational system, not technology itself. Almost every university in the world is filled with the sounds of clacking keys from laptops, this isn't 1984.
Technology is part of it. For example, handwriting notes is proven to be better for information retention compared to typing.
The text book industry inflated the cost of everything by making things huge, with mostly meaningless full color pictures everywhere. Go back 100 years and compare the size of a math book to present day. Math hasn't changed a whole lot but the size and weight of the books certainly has.
I meana, sure. There's a cognitive decline when they get gunned down in their classrooms, or even just the perpetual stress of having to live with that threat on a daily basis.
Capable of what though? We have all the evidence we need that our parents and their parents are brain damaged. Maybe that kind of cognitive capability is bad and there's a goldilocks zone to go back to.
I'm sure the switch was a profit driven enterprise evey step of the way, so it worked perfectly, and additionally created more malleable servants.
The mistake was a bunch of people who learned how to use computers as adults thinking that the only way to learn how to use a computer is to do so from a young age, in non-vocational ways.
Doesn’t make sense, does it?
It's all part of the plan, create technological dependency. Why is Google so laser focused on making sure these school PCs are always Chromebooks?
Raise an entire generation that can't write, research, calculate, synthesize, without a Chromebook. If it breaks, they buy a new one, when they grow up they rely on always having one, and so on.
Yes, businesses want children indoctrinated into the products that make them money.
Also, businesses want job training to be done in schools at the expense of education. I’ve talked to many people that seriously think that college is supposed to be entry-level job training. That kind of thing was always part of what new hires learn in entry-level jobs.
I was once told "we're not going to teach you what you need to know, just what employers want you to know". Lost all respect for that "teacher" in that moment, as well as the school.
This was not recently either, that kind of dumbification has been going on for decades.
They really need to ban phones for students in grade school.
"But, they need them for safety!"
How the hell did we ever get along without every kid having an internet connected computer in their pocket since forever before they were invented? No, they don't need them for "safety".
It's a scam, y'all.
It angers me when people use the US as an example to aspire to. The US are so broken and fucked up, if they're doing something the default reaction should be to not do it because it's most likely some idiotic, fucked up thing. They are a negative example.