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We’ve been searching for a memory-safe programming language to replace C++ in Ladybird for a while now. We previously explored Swift, but the C++ interop never quite got there, and platform support outside the Apple ecosystem was limited. Rust is a different story. The ecosystem is far more mature for systems programming, and many of our contributors already know the language. Going forward, we are rewriting parts of Ladybird in Rust.

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[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Every minute that passes, Gemini (not the Google one!) looks more viable, which is already a shame because as I described in lemm.ee before it went down, that itself feels like "Gopher but in the format of a brutalist buttplug".

What we need is some sort of return to HTML + CSS 1.0, or a web engine that simply ditches JS, so that development can be tackled by Individuals again.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz - This kinda covers the "engine without JS" part, it's a bit more limited, but also in alpha. It's part of the dioxus project, they use it for rendering UI on desktop.

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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

Separation of server styles, server markup and client styles is definitely something Gemini lacks, not having server styles at all.

But it's not as much a problem of browsers as it is of the environment in which information is shared and propagated. While we still connect to websites using a browser, those websites will behave however their owners wish, inflating web standards and requiring complex browsers.

I was dreaming of something like "hypertext Usenet", and making descriptions of another system I was interested in trying to make, I am still not even close to that, and I'm not sure I'm still interested, because it appears NOSTR now has much of what I wanted in its standards.

Basically if you imagine a system for propagating posts addressable by ids and with markup inside, referring to styles and containing hyperlinks by ids to other posts, you can throw away the idea of a website, and still have the hypertext web. That markup can be anything, while the URLs in the links leading to images and such (and other pages) are using those ids or are at least Blossom-compliant.

I think NOSTR of new protocols is the one most likely to eventually attain such functionality. People here wouldn't like it, I suppose, because of huge intersection with Bitcoin community and because most clients and client libraries are for the web. But there's now a C client library, functional enough, and architecturally NOSTR is worlds above the thinking of designers of Lemmy, for example.

common ladybird l

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Someone could theoretically fork ladybird and strip out the AI, but it would be a lot of work.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not that much, there's a git log, just find when they started doing AI and fork from just before then

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[–] Fitik@fedia.io -4 points 6 days ago

Good riddance on ai, even if people there dislike it, ai-assisted code is already a norm in a lot of places. However, the decision seems confusing to me, there's already a Rust based web engine (Servo), I'm confused about what's the distinction between them now?

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