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Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So the CEO is trying to tell investors that they are saving money by not paying employees. But to me it sounds more like: we are letting our sub-par products continue to enshitify, and any other company using AI to program will be equal competition.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

What products do they have that are enshittifying?

Here is the definition: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

What products do they have that aren't?

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 3 points 50 minutes ago

Windows 11 was much much shittier, idk about the rest of their products, I haven't used them.

And I switched over to steamOS, so I won't be using any of their products again.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 22 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

this makes way more sense than hundreds of shitty devs.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

Even their AI crashes all the time, its brutal.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

this is why I get so much business as a IT consultant lol

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 minutes ago

“Written by software” does not inherently mean AI.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 hour ago

We know Microsoft.

Hardly possible not to noticce..

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 2 points 41 minutes ago

Well that explains a lot

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 11 points 2 hours ago

Boy am I glad not having to touch their software.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

And 100% of their product names are generated by AI. No human would be stupid enough to change something's name for zero reason.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 4 points 2 hours ago

No human would be stupid enough to change something’s name for zero reason.

Well, unless you're a product manager at Google apparently... Though with them you're lucky if its just a change of name rather than it becoming an entirely "new" thing, or just getting outright axed...

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Everybody saying this is why their products are shit are really confusing me. It's not like Microsoft just started being terrible. They've been terrible for a real long time. Way before AI was a thing. This is just a symptom of Microsoft's awfulness not a reason for it.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 20 minutes ago

The AI is not the reason their software is bad, but their software is bad for the same reason they’re claiming to use AI to write it.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 14 points 2 hours ago

Ok, it's like this.
Ms used to release shitty stuff. And they'll continue to release shitty stuff except now it'll be 30% more shitty.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

There were alpha versions of windows 8 with less glaring/annoying bugs than windows 11, though

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

My windows 11 gaming machine has done all manner of fucky stuff, including permanently losing desktop icons seemingly at random and just whole ass refusing to open the file explorer for six months.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can install Dolphin file manager on Windows. File Explorer has sucked at least since Windows 11 was released.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm just saying, it's the most basic program there is for a user-friendly OS, how do you launch to market with a fucked up file explorer? And nah, we're going to Linux once they start pushing windows 12.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm waiting to make a pc upgrade and buy new storage, then I'm switching.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Mostly because when I switched my personal machine, there were a few small, weird issues with everything from not being able to do multiplayer on indie games to the grass, and only the grass as opposed to everything green, being blue in Baldur's Gate 3. Working through those problems didn't bother me, I've got the gumption and patience for it, the rest of my family does not. I'm giving the game industry a bit more time to smooth things out before I move the family gaming machine over.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Windows 11 is so terrible so far that if I'll need to use Windows 10 for dev reasons, I'll either pirate the extended support patches, or use a shitbox (obsolete PC for optimization purposes) disconnected from the internet. I do fear that I might have to hack a GUI onto LDB or GDB, because I got too used to RemedyBG (I'm already using Kate).

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 hours ago

50% of my code is written by Intellisense...

[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 27 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

That's why their products are so crappy!

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

What? There products have long been shit ever before AI was even a thing.

Anyone remember windows ME? I sure as fuck do.

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 hours ago

No way, they get their results through honest effort. Anyone can make crappy AI products now, but Microsoft have been doing crappy products the hard way for decades. Don't downplay their hard work !

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago
[–] vane@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If they start with those products today with zero marketing budged and zero user base nobody would use it. Those CEOs are just clowns.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Even worse, whenever a good new technology does pop up they buy it and ruin it.

[–] sqibkw@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Windows hate train looks fun, but as someone who works in the industry, most of that code is probably just unit tests and boilerplate stuff.

Copilot is decent at quickly writing huge amounts of mostly correct, tedious unit test code, depending on your language/framework. And since Microsoft works with languages like C# and .NET for their native apps, and likely backend too, there is quite a bit of verbosity that Copilot can take care of. Also, documentation might count as well.

No real code is AI-generated. He's just saying shit like this to keep idiot investors happy.

[–] alecbowles@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Isn’t that the problem tho. He’s the CEO of Microsoft which is supposed to be a bight end technology firm saying bullshit

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 points 6 hours ago

Beat me to it.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

That explains so much

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago

Not suprised

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They're attempting to make excuses for their inability to create functional software

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 minutes ago

They’re lying about using AI to write software, they probably have required all their programmers to have an AI plugin installed, and are thus counting any code they make as “written by AI”, and then are counting any minor edit to existing code as the entire thing being “written by AI”.

The software is bad because it’s written to serve the infinite growth imperative. The reason they claim they’re writing code with AI is because that being true is the only hope that they have for achieving the infinite growth imperative. It’s a con, it’s a cult, they are extracting as much value as they can before everything falls apart.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

Code written by software doesn't mean AI unless you ignore compilers

Executives lie to boost profits and justify their decisions, I doubt MS execs even know how much of their code is AI generated just like the ad sales company exec they were talking to in the article

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 19 points 7 hours ago

This makes sense and would explain the mainline windows versioning and probably the xbox versioning too!

Microsoft to AI: List all the integers from one to eleven.

AI: 3. 95. 98. 2000. XP. Vista. 7. 8. 10. 11.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

They include tab complete of github copilot which is often as much as a single dot. Same thing they've done with all github copilot stats.

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 47 points 10 hours ago

Well, that explains Windows 11.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

If this were true there would massive databreaches. AI is really bad at keeping private keys private. Not to even mention the default credentials it would use because it doesnt have commen sense to change them

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Likely a lot of manpower were focused on that, and/or the employees rather wrote their own code then lied about the AI use (heard a lot about it).

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 59 points 11 hours ago

That’s… not something to be proud of.

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