this post was submitted on 30 Apr 2025
587 points (95.1% liked)

Technology

69491 readers
4260 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 4 points 1 hour ago

This is my own experience but the past few years Windows has been extremely dependable for me and then in the last few months the updates they’ve have been terrible. I’ve seen more blue screens recently than I have in a lot of years.

All this to say that if it is 30% AI code being used then it’s very telling!

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 hours ago

Government spyware finally has a challenger for the title of "primary reason that most Microsoft software runs like hot garbage".

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 59 points 8 hours ago (12 children)

So the CEO is trying to tell investors that they are saving money by not paying employees. But to me it sounds more like: we are letting our sub-par products continue to enshitify, and any other company using AI to program will be equal competition.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think he's trying to say that their AI writes code good enough for Microsoft. Which is a message to other business leaders that your company too can benefit from copilot, just hand over your credit card!

Microsoft has absolutely gotten worse in the consumer space, but that isn't really their business these days.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 1 points 58 minutes ago
load more comments (11 replies)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

this makes way more sense than hundreds of shitty devs.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

Even their AI crashes all the time, its brutal.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

this is why I get so much business as a IT consultant lol

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

“Written by software” does not inherently mean AI.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Code generators being a prime and ancient example

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I vaguely remember talk about companies like Google having software that fixes/writes code and that was ages before LLMs.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 8 hours ago

We know Microsoft.

Hardly possible not to noticce..

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago

Well that explains a lot

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Year of the Linux desktop

(Amusing sidenote: my autocomplete's first suggestion after 'Linux' was 'propaganda'.)

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 8 hours ago

Boy am I glad not having to touch their software.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 36 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Everybody saying this is why their products are shit are really confusing me. It's not like Microsoft just started being terrible. They've been terrible for a real long time. Way before AI was a thing. This is just a symptom of Microsoft's awfulness not a reason for it.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 18 points 8 hours ago

Ok, it's like this.
Ms used to release shitty stuff. And they'll continue to release shitty stuff except now it'll be 30% more shitty.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

The AI is not the reason their software is bad, but their software is bad for the same reason they’re claiming to use AI to write it.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

There were alpha versions of windows 8 with less glaring/annoying bugs than windows 11, though

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

My windows 11 gaming machine has done all manner of fucky stuff, including permanently losing desktop icons seemingly at random and just whole ass refusing to open the file explorer for six months.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

Sure as hell feels like it!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And 100% of their product names are generated by AI. No human would be stupid enough to change something's name for zero reason.

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 8 points 8 hours ago

No human would be stupid enough to change something’s name for zero reason.

Well, unless you're a product manager at Google apparently... Though with them you're lucky if its just a change of name rather than it becoming an entirely "new" thing, or just getting outright axed...

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 7 hours ago
[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

That's why their products are so crappy!

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 hours ago

No way, they get their results through honest effort. Anyone can make crappy AI products now, but Microsoft have been doing crappy products the hard way for decades. Don't downplay their hard work !

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

What? There products have long been shit ever before AI was even a thing.

Anyone remember windows ME? I sure as fuck do.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago

50% of my code is written by Intellisense...

[–] vane@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If they start with those products today with zero marketing budged and zero user base nobody would use it. Those CEOs are just clowns.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Even worse, whenever a good new technology does pop up they buy it and ruin it.

[–] sqibkw@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Windows hate train looks fun, but as someone who works in the industry, most of that code is probably just unit tests and boilerplate stuff.

Copilot is decent at quickly writing huge amounts of mostly correct, tedious unit test code, depending on your language/framework. And since Microsoft works with languages like C# and .NET for their native apps, and likely backend too, there is quite a bit of verbosity that Copilot can take care of. Also, documentation might count as well.

No real code is AI-generated. He's just saying shit like this to keep idiot investors happy.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for the context

[–] alecbowles@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t that the problem tho. He’s the CEO of Microsoft which is supposed to be a bight end technology firm saying bullshit

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Operations are one thing, but investors are another. The latter don't know the sector, but they want profits.

So you have to convince them not to interfere with your activities, because they can make things worse.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago
load more comments
view more: next ›