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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The Chinese law enforcement official used ChatGPT like a diary to document the alleged covert campaign of suppression, OpenAI said.

:-/

The report comes amid a battle between the US and China for supremacy over AI.

The Pentagon is in a standoff with another prominent AI company, Anthropic [a major OpenAI rival], over the use of its AI model. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has given Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei a Friday deadline to comply with demands to peel back safeguards on its AI model or risk losing a lucrative Pentagon contract.

Sam Altman is so fucking thirsty right now.

Open AI knows their models have no technical edge over Chinese ones, so their only recourse is to fight dirty. Own all the hardware so people can self host their competition. Make using their models a matter of patriotism against those evil commies, cornering the US market like the car companies (who can't sell their crap internationally because they never innovated). Leverage as much venture capital as possible to capture the market before the hype dies.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you people the must gullible people to exist? Open AI put this "report" out. Hmm, do you think there's any motivation for them to show how useful their chatbot is? Especially regarding "national security"? Followed up by, no joke, a radio free asia source, known CIA mouthpiece. Reported on breathlessly by cnn.

Like. This is the most obvious fiction.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It sounds like you're demanding a level of proof that's basically impossible to provide to you.

What do you think is more likely?

  1. This is a high level conspiracy between multiple parties to make one Chinese official look dumb, or
  2. ChatGPT attracts dumb people, who exist worldwide
[–] northface@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  1. OpenAI has identified that ChatGPT has being used from networks associated with CCP headquarters, and fabricates a plausible story for the press to show how useful their data can be for US military intelligence.

The timing of this news story is too good to not be an attempt to get hold one of those Pentagon contracts Anthropic has been offered (and might lose), with all means necessary.

Regardless of the actual truth, I am just curious about the overall optics of this. Why would OpenAI (implicitly) admit that they are spying on their users, and show that they are willing to share it with the press?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Most arguments for surveillance (and all authoritarianism) boil down to either saving the children or fighting an eternal enemy. Obviously OpenAI does surveil all its users, but the "for the children" argument would hurt their user numbers (I wanted to say it would hurt their profits, but they don't profit off of any user). Thus, it's "but China" instead.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

regardless of truth, OpenAI spends a lot of effort in data mining on its users, and is eager to amplify warmongering narratives that US establishment is committed to.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I'm perfectly willing to accept information when the evidence provided suggests the conclusion.

But examining the conclusion and insinuations and then examining the claims and the sources with the knowledge of US actions and motivations, this is just garden variety lazy lies.

There isn't any evidence that a Chinese official actually did this just claims from a chatgpt investigation.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm perfectly willing to accept information when the evidence provided suggests the conclusion.

The evidence provided does suggest the conclusion. You just apparently distrust the source along nationalist lines. Predictable but unfortunate.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Pentagon is in a standoff with another prominent AI company, Anthropic, over the use of its AI model. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has given Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei a Friday deadline to comply with demands to peel back safeguards on its AI model or risk losing a lucrative Pentagon contract

Do you think that this paragraph from the article might be relevant to open AIs "report" (which is not released as part of this article)? Do you think there's maybe a reason to be suspicious about their capability in reporting about "high level" Chinese administrators?

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

What evidence? It's just a claim from a CEO with every incentive to lie.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy strawman.

This is a high level conspiracy between multiple parties to make one Chinese official look dumb,

No it's a standard propoganda run, run through the most standard propaganda mouthpiece (RFA) to spread propaganda about China? Are you being dense on purpose?

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kind of crazy to think people are using ChatGPT for such covert things.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago

This official didn't just expose state secrets. They were using ChatGPT in the dumbest way I can imagine:

ChatGPT served as a journal for the Chinese operative to keep track of the covert network, while much of the network’s content was generated by other tools and spread through social media accounts and websites.

A journal. A freaking journal.

From a chatbot that is known to change text on a whim.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do I believe China is engaging in a campaign of global intimidation? Heck, I'd be more surprised if they weren't.

Do I believe they were using ChatGPT, product of an American company, as a "diary" to document the process? Absolutely not.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ironic as I put all of my deepest darkest secrets into deepseek

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Everybody knows OpenAI is where you open up about stuff. That's why they named it that, right?

[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting to read these two topics back-to-back.

https://lemmy.world/post/43668386

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This got deleted , what was it

[–] stray@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

The US government made a deal with OpenAI.

(I wonder why it got deleted...?)

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 3 weeks ago

Cant help but feel someone has a huge incentive to claim that their bot has chinese state secrets.