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US military has launched 'major combat operations' in Iran - Trump

Trump says the US military has launched “major combat operations” in Iran, saying the country had attempted to rebuild its nuclear programme.

Edit: Gift link to the NYT live coverage

Edit2: updated headline

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How convenient for the Iranian government, now they can call protestors US backed terrorists, crush them even harder and consolidate support. Wouldn't be surprised if Ayatollah is in on this.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely not. You're assuming Iran wins the war with small enough losses that it doesn't set up the regime's fall. This is far from a likely outcome.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does not need to win just needs to have some minor to medium damages.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By "win" I mean "survive without regime change" (which automatically implies dealing enough damage that they're left alone). Even that is far from guaranteed.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US couldn't even beat the Houthis. I, for one, don't feel like it's time to be beating our chests.

There are consequences for putting legitimately incompetent people in charge.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was very different RoE. There are reports that we’ve bombed some schools, and the implication at this point is that the regime and the military no longer gives a shit about that sort of thing. The strikes on the Houthis did, at some level, have some restraint compared to this shit.

This isn’t me “beating my chest”. I’m simply pointing out that any limited faith I had in US military leadership ultimately doing “the right thing” in a domestic context is rapidly diminishing.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The strikes on the Houthis did, at some level, have some restraint compared to this shit.

Like that residential building y'all bombed to get that Houthi guy hanging out with his girlfriend? Whatever restraint was exercised in the Houthi bombings was strictly performative; the real difference between these two cases is the possibilities of US boots on the ground.

I mean, I thought that was super fucked up and almost certainly illegal too, and I am by no means trying to excuse or justify it when I say the following: there is a significant difference of degree between a targeted strike that kills the target and the target’s girlfriend, and bombing a school and killing 51 children (which is the last count I saw).

Both are bad. One is a lot worse than the other.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I guess Iran will be releasing those Trump videos now

[–] breakfastmtn@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago

A central goal of the first joint wave of strikes in Iran was to hit as many leaders as possible, according to three Israeli security officials familiar with the operations.

The officials said that, similar to the previous strikes in June last year, planners took into account that they would manage to achieve at least some degree of surprise. They calculated that if they wanted to kill senior Iranian officials, they had to try and hit them in the first round of strikes. Afterward, it is highly likely that more precautions would be taken to protect the leadership.

NYT

Videos verified by The New York Times show strikes in an area of Tehran that houses the presidential palace and Iran’s National Security Council, among other important government buildings. Another video shows a strike near Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence.

NYT

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Death to America, death to Israel

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Death to America.

[–] Nickelalloy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Do we have any community for following the war in Iran?

[–] breakfastmtn@piefed.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Israel’s military spokesman said Israeli forces had killed several top Iranian defense officials this morning. They included Iran’s defense minister, Gen. Aziz Nasirzadeh; the head of the Revolutionary Guards Corps, Gen. Mohammad Pakpour; and a top adviser to Iran’s supreme leader, Ali Shamkhani. The spokesman, Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin, said nothing about Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

NYT

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