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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 minutes ago

As others said, it's generally a routine thing. I did once see a Mastodon post from a climate scientist, where they expressed that they're losing hope.
If that's the kind of reconciling you're talking about, I imagine every climate scientist has gone through that, but it's something they tend to deal with individually rather than stating it publicly.

The problem is that you don't want to give the public the impression that it's hopeless. Fossil fuel corporations will use that against you. And it just does not make rational sense.
Any amount of greenhouse gas that we don't put into the atmosphere makes our lives easier. Even if you give up hope for some particular goal, you would still want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions as much as possible, so that it doesn't become worse sooner.

Climate change already affects our lives. We really don't want it to become worse sooner.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 5 points 46 minutes ago

Yes, constantly.

Most people, imo, don't have a good idea who the scientific community is and what their discussions look like. The scientific community is made up primarily of working class nerds who work at universities and suppliers and contract companies, and they communicate through blog and magazine articles in publications by and for other academics.

If you go to a scientific conference, you'll see talks and panels on this subject and it's a routine topic at coffee breaks and drinks in the evenings.

The scientific community has been discussing this topic literally longer than anyone else.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's been settled for 20 years that the world is warming. The efforts at this point are entirely focused on containing and limiting the damage. The fight to stop it is long over, and there's absolutely nothing that can stop some level of catastrophic damage.

[–] TheTactfulSaboteur@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 hour ago

It's actually been settled science for over 40 years at this point. Here's Carl Sagan laying it out to Congress in 1985 https://youtu.be/Wp-WiNXH6hI

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yes they have already reconciled that it is already happening now. They are figuring out how to stop it so that all life on Earth doesn’t go extinct…

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

There are virtually no scientists that think all life on earth will go extinct.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

But then Nestle says "Life? Or profits today?.....PROFITS!!! FUCK YO' WATER SUPPLY!!! I DO WHAT I WANT!!!"

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 20 points 4 hours ago

Uhhhh.... they've been warning us for many decades, now? (and sounding alarms)

There's also the fact that Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius (and others) discovered key mechanisms of the Greenhouse Effect, and CO2's key role in such, back in the 1800's. So you know, want to know about a science issue? Maybe ask literal scientists?

It's not the body of relevant scientists that are letting us down, Dafty...

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

They can either give up, or keep trying. Which would you do?

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The place to read that would be the latest IPCC reports https://www.ipcc.ch/

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

"Scientific Community" is kind of a broad term. It is composed of a lot of smarty-pants types who are unlikely to take "no" for an answer, and will keep trying to fix the problem.

In the end, you may be right, and there's no way to stop the runaway train, and all these folks will accomplish is getting our hopes raised while they earn their PhD's and present papers in worldwide conferences they all burned jet fuel to get to.

But, what if you turn out to be wrong, and one of those poindexters actually figures out how to scrub CO2 from the atmosphere in an economical fashion, and they manage to stop the train? That person will be instantly famous, and the Nobel Prize might be the least of their accolades. They will be remembered as one of humanity's greatest minds. If they happen to be British, they will be buried in that cathedral next to Newton and Darwin and Hawking, that's how important it will be.

So, they will keep trying, because it's as close as you can get in this life to immortality.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's an energy problem, not a smarts problem.

Imagine the Hiroshima bomb.

How much energy that contains.

Now understand that, just from excess emissions alone, we are adding at least four of those nuclear explosions worth of energy into the atmosphere.

Per second.

That's right, per second.

There is no solving this without technology that would be indistinguishable from magic, so not happening. We had our chance, capitalism won, and those at the top are hoarding and preparing for what's coming next.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Remember that we have technology that 100 years ago would have been indistinguishable from magic.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

That's an assumption that math and physics doesn't support.

There is no infinite well of technology and efficiency for us to draw from.

That's not to say we can't find things that will help a lot, we should, but they won't save us.

[–] mystrawberrymind@piefed.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Well for example, I read they’re harvesting coral samples so we can try to regrow the coral reefs in the future.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

No, scientists can definitely do something about it.

I think if you replace scientists with a body that is paralyzed with inaction because of regulatory capture like the US it would make more sense.

Has the US government ever reconciled with the fact global warming is happening and there is no way they can work together to stop it?

The answer is then a clean yes.