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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NFT was the worst "tech" crap I have ever even heard about, like pure 100% total full scam. Kind of impressed that anyone could be so stupid they'd fall for it.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The whole NFT/crypto currency thing is so incredibly frustrating. Like, being able to verify that a given file is unique could be very useful. Instead, we simply used the technology for scamming people.

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't think NFTs can do that either. Collections are copied to another contract address all the time. There isn't a way to verify if there isn't another copy of an NFT on the blockchain.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's crazy that people could see NFTs were a scam but can't see the same concept in virtual coins.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago

because there are some buisness that accept some crypto, mostly grey or black market ones, but respectable companies none the less.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A large majority of "real" money is digital, like 80% non-m1 m2. The only real difference between crypto and USD is that the crypto is a public multiple ledger system that allows you to be your own bank.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've heard the sales pitch, it's a ponzi scheme with receipts. An open pyramid, so to speak. At best a volatile store of wealth.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

So is fiat.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean with being your own bank? Can you receive deposits from customers? Are you allowed to lend a portion of the deposists onwards for business loans/mortgages? If not, you are not your “own bank”.

I think you mean that you can use it as a deposit for money, similar to, say, an old sock.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Banks have multiple ledgers to keep track of who owns what and where it all came from. They also use ancient fortran/cobol written IBM owned software to manage all bank to bank transactions, which is the barrier for entry.

Blockchain is literally a multiple ledger system. That is all it is. The protocol to send and recieve funds is open for all.

Locally stored BTC is when you're the bank. For all the good and bad that comes with it.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That sounds super cool and stuff, but it has nothing to do with the essence of banking. Banks are businesses that take deposits for safekeeping and that provide credit. Banks in fact outdate Fortran by a 1000 years or so.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Oh, my apologies for not taking note of your 0.18% savings account interest rate.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's crazy that people see crypto as a scam but can't see the same concept in fiat currencies.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Governments don't accept cryptocurrencies for taxes. They're not real currencies.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't usually accept other nation's currencies in general.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, but for every real currency it's accepted (and required) to pay taxes somewhere.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Real currency" also gets created or destroyed by a government at whims. Anybody clutching their USD rn isn't going to benefit in the long run.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the realness by your definition has no merit.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Real currencies are far more stable and are unlikely to suddenly disappear. It can occasionally happen, but it's rare. Cryptocurrencies are a ponzi scheme.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Consumer price indexes and exchange rates are constantly fluctuating, although admittedly BTC temporarily lost half its value a few times while it climbed from $0.09 to $106,154.15 in 15 years.

The price goes up alongside adoption rates, at this point it takes a massive amount of funds to manipulate, like tens of billions.

The vast majority of scammers ask you to wire transfer funds out of the USA or purchase gift cards.

I agree with you that smaller coins are all pointless and terrible investment but I do see possitive potential for Crypto in the future as a means of people resisting central agencies.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Ponzi schemes sometimes take a while to collapse.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The technology is not a scam. The tech was used to make scam products.

NFTs can be useful as tickets, vouchers, certificates of authenticity, proof of ownership of something that is actually real (not a jpeg), etc.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But where specifically does it help to not have approved central servers?

Wouldn't entertainment venues rather retain full control? How would we get out from under Ticketmaster's monopoly? If the government can just seize property, then why would we ask anyone else who owns a plot of land?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago

Wouldn’t entertainment venues rather retain full control?

Pretty sure ticketmaster has all the control.

How would we get out from under Ticketmaster’s monopoly?

Using a decentralized and open network (aka NFTs).

If the government can just seize property, then why would we ask anyone else who owns a plot of land?

It's not about using NFTs to seize land. It's more that governments are terrible at keeping records. Moving proof of ownership to an open and decentralized network could be an improvement.

FWIW I think capitalism with destroy the planet with or without NFTs. But it's fairly obtuse to deny that NFTs could disintermediate a variety of centralized cartels.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

NFT's are a scam. Blockchain less so but still has no use.

NFTs were nothing but an URL saved in a decentralized database, linking to a centralized server.

[–] MSBBritain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NFTs could have been great, if they had been used FOR the consumer, and not to scam them.

Best thing I can think of is to verify licenses for digital products/games. Buy a game, verify you own it like you would with a CD using an NFT, and then you can sell it again when you're done.

Do this with serious stuff like AAA Games or Professional Software (think like borrowing a copy of Photoshop from an online library for a few days while you work on a project!) instead of monkey pictures and you could have the best of both worlds for buying physical vs buying online.

However, that might make corporations less money and completely upend modern licencing models, so no one was willing to do it.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There is nothing you mentioned which couldn't already be done, and is in fact already being done, faster and more reliably by existing technology.

Also that was not even what NFTs was about, because you didn't even buy the digital artwork and NFTs would never be able to include it. So it would be supremely useless for the thing you are talking about.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Existing solutions are always centralized.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do feel that, unlike Crypto, AI (or, to drop the buzzwords, LLMs and other machine-learning based language processors and parsers) will end up having a place in the world.

As it is NOW, the AI hype train is definitely an investment bubble and it will definitely explode in a glorious fashion eventually. Taking a lot of people down with it.

But unlike Crypto, AI does -- It like does things, you know? Even if I personally feel like it's mostly only good for a toy, all my attempts to use it for anything society would deem "valuable" were frustrated, but at least I can RP with it when my friends aren't available. It is a thing that exists and can be used.

Crypto was funny because it was literally useless. Just an incredibly wasteful techno-fetishistic speculative vehicle with precisely zero shame about being that.

As for what's next, I think Quantum Computing might be it. That is, assuming the Tech Industry even survives the bubble's burst in its current form. Because everyone in the industry is putting all their eggs including theoretical eggs that haven't even been laid, and in fact there's not even a chicken in this AI hype train. And even with AI becoming part of people's lives, as I predict it indeed will, when the bubble does burst it might end up hitting the reset button on who is truly in charge of things.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 month ago

Drag hopes that Google and the other tech giants go bankrupt, and Ask Jeeves makes a comeback

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For better or worse, AI is here to stay. Unlike NFTs, it’s actually used by ordinary people - and there’s no sign of it stopping anytime soon.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

ChatGPT loses money on every query their premium subscribers submit. They lose money when people use copilot, which they resell to Microsoft. And it’s not like they’re going to make it up on volume - heavy users are significantly more costly.

This isn’t unique to ChatGPT.

Yes, it has its uses; no, it cannot continue in the way it has so far. Is it worth more than $200/month to you? Microsoft is tearing up datacenter deals. I don’t know what the future is, but this ain’t it.

ETA I think that management gets the most benefit, by far, and that’s why there’s so much talk about it. I recently needed to lead a meeting and spent some time building the deck with a LLM; took me 20 min to do something otherwise would have taken over an hour. When that is your job alongside responding to emails, it’s easy to see the draw. Of course, many of these people are in Bullshit Jobs.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 month ago

I fucking hate AI, but an AI coding assistant that is basically a glorified StackOverflow search engine is actually worth more than $200/month to me professionally.

I don’t use it to do my work, I use it to speed up the research part of my work.