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In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user's true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they're entitled to under the law.

Several federal agencies, including the FBI, NSA, and FTC, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they're seeking.

The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.

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[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 25 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The entirety of this has made me furious so I'm leaving a comment to remember to come back and soapbox in a bit.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 hour ago

https://www.scribd.com/document/1017859680/Congressional-VPN-Letter-to-Dni

And the letter (because these asshats make these things difficult to find)

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Doesn't CGNat obscure the user true location in the same way? And what kind of VPN are we talking about? Company with exit node in the country? Commercial ones only?

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

I guess I am on the "watch list" as my company uses multiple different VPN solutions so I can access work files cross offices and remotely when in the field.

Also, what about personal home VPNs where I want to route all my device traffic back to my home when I am out of the house like at a cafe/mall/airport?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 24 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they're entitled to under the law.

lmao

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah. That really jumped out at me. My very first thought was “Americans have privacy protections?” Since Roe v Wade was overturned, Americans have basically no right to privacy.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious how this works in action. If you use a VPN provider that doesn't do logging, and inherently you're traffic is encrypted via that VPN, what are they spying on? That's kind of the whole purpose of running a VPN in the first place.

If they happen to somehow see the unencrypted traffic, I hope they enjoy sifting through ass loads of torrent data. Good luck, shit bags.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

It's not so much spying as moving you to the front of the line for suspicious persons.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

I hope I'm there already. If I'm not then I'm not being vocal enough about how much I despise the current US government

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 hours ago

It was the Swedes causing mass shootings in America the whole time!

  • Republicans probably
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 43 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Did they stop spying on americans. Im pretty sure snowden is still living in russia.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 23 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

America should have took him seriously.

I really think there's no worth in the average American people anymore.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

I took him seriously. I was a teenager when Snowden leaked those documents, and I took it seriously.

Why do you think I'm here today?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 14 points 3 hours ago

Yeah it was pretty big. So much of modern times it just boggles my mind for anyone who grew up in the 80's. We are literally how we portrayed russia or what we would become like if we let communism win. A whistle blower had to flee to russia. 100% bin laden won. Half my life has been in this millenium and there is a stark difference before and after (even with there being plenty which headed us in this direction).

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 38 points 4 hours ago

“Mighty suspicious of you to protect yourself from our abuse. You must be up to no good.”

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 65 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So in the US, locking your metaphorical doors or windows, or closing your digital curtains, means that authorities can presume you are hiding something and your 4th Amendments rights cease to be valid.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 41 points 4 hours ago

All while abusing Third Party Doctrine to buy your data from advertisers and Palantir anyway.

If a VPN routing of someone in Chicago is via Texas and California, what judge would see that as "foreign"? Oh, right, one of their idiot ones they like to give cases like this.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 98 points 5 hours ago

...Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.

We have no protections and no privacy, laws or no.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 4 hours ago

I already assume the gubmint can see everything else I do. The VPN just keeps my ISP from cancelling my service.

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 71 points 5 hours ago

Old news... If you are using a VPN, it's "foreign communications" and subject to spying; and if you aren't using a VPN, they route the data through a room that's considered a foreign enclave (like an embassy), turning it into "foreign communications" and subject to spying.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 49 points 5 hours ago

Lmao, what privacy protections? This is the land of the grift, you're more protected using a VPN than without one.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I hope they have fun watching me pirate the entirety of the Pokémon anime then.

Just change your username AiLearningModule.

They already spy on everyone. They probably do worse and promote social manipulation too.

Humanity is owned. And they are trying to own it further with air and digitizing everything. And they will succeed because most people don't give a fuck and just consume all the bullshit and lifestyles marketed to them.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Thinks keep going on their current path, I'll be using i2p fairly soon.

I wonder how the goberment feels about that?

[–] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wow thanks I learned something new today.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 43 minutes ago

I heard about i2p yesterday. I have no experience with it but it does sound promising.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say "bomb", "arson", "nuke" etc. It's time to use more VPN to generate such a level of white noise where it becomes impractical to track VPN access...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

like in the old days of illegal wiretapping when throughout the conversation one would randomly say “bomb”, “arson”, “nuke” etc.

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think they're buying so much AI shit right now? To filter through the shit for whatever they want to find. People aren't the bottleneck anymore.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And it's not like they particularly care about false positives.

[–] Jaegeras@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

But, what VPNs? This is never described. All in general or specific ones?

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I didn’t know this tbh so thanks (and also that’s some BS)

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Not that shocked, over here.

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 hours ago

Welp I hope they enjoy the most degen shitposts my dumb brain can come up with