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Can I buy a pizza with it or pay my bills with it? Can my employer pay me in it? Or is it just an "emperor's new clothes" thing? I just don't see the tangible value in it. Rhetorical questions, BTW, I know you can't buy a pizza with it, at least outside of some edge cases that I'm not aware of.

I thought what made money money was everyone agreed it was valuable and was willing to exchange it for goods and services directly. I don't see that with crypto.

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[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The way I look at it is that cryptocurrency is basically a security with no real use, but it can store 'value' in the same way those NFT things stored value for a while. There are more bullshitters for crypto, so they'll keep that hype train going longer, and you can semi work it to get some profit by buying the security low, and selling it high.

There was a post a while ago about how around something like 2020 or whatever, with billions invested in it, and with huge amounts of power/electricity going towards it, bitcoin had something like less than 10 transactions per minute globally. Like it's absolute dogshit when ti comes to transactions, in part because it's not a currency despite its name.

Currencies need to depreciate in value via inflation -- crypto tends to just store value and go up / down solely on its isolated demand as a nebulous concept. In fact, one of the bragging points from cryptobros is often this misguided notion that crypto is a hedge against inflation -- as that 'benefit' basically disqualifies it as a proper currency. If you get $1000, and that $1000 is able to buy you some quantity of goods, you need that money to be able to buy less of those goods in the future in order to encourage people to actually use the fucking thing. If you had $1000, but were almost assured that it would be able to buy twice as many goods in the future if you just held on to it for a bit under your mattress, you wouldn't spend the money... ever. Sorta like those crazy early crypto experiments where uni students were given like 25 bitcoin to see how they'd spend it -- and a bunch did exactly what you said in your opening bit, bought pizzas (you could at the time). Bet they would've preferred to buy a bunch of houses and sports cars later on, if they'd realised how popular the fad would get. Bitcoin only tends to go 'down' in value when people completely exit the currency, so it's not a valid currency.

I think you're generally right in your note about it needing to be exchanged. The whole point of currencies is that you don't want them to sit idle under someone's bed. Banks/Credit Unions provide savings accounts that pay interest, though typically slightly less than inflation. This is basically a function where because of inflation, you don't want to have your money just sit under your bed, you want to invest it in at least a savings account/term deposit -- but what's actually happening there, is that you're committing your money to the financial institution for a fixed period, and they're subsequently loaning that out to someone so that person can buy a house (typically) -- and then their payments on that house, is what generates your interest earnings (and the banks profits). The house itself is a security, with a general stable/safe valuation, so if that person can't make their payments on the house, the bank can foreclose, sell it, and still pay you your interest. So your savings are generally very safe -- especially, frankly, with simple/smaller financial institutions that aren't trying to do fancy bullshit / aren't doing any higher risk wealth management type back end tricks. Main point being though, that because of inflation, even people who have 'too much' capital, put it into the market, and it generates economic activity as a result.

Crypto, being a security, doesn't behave too well in this situation either -- in that you can't realistically hold a security and pay interest on it based on being able to use that security to fund other economic activity. Sorta like if someone hands you 10 shares of a stock (which has a variable price), and you've gotta figure out a way to pay that person back 12 shares of stock in a year, buy giving those 10 shares to someone else. What if they don't want shares of that stock? What if the stock price goes down, or up, significantly? There's just an absurd amount of risk, that would be considered wildly untenable for something like a person's core savings vehicle. There are some "interest paying" crypto type accounts these days, but that's a whole shitload of financial shenanigans and cryptobro bullshit. Cryptocurrencies are basically an economic blackhole.

And speaking of governments, anyone saying that crypto is useful because you can send money globally, is a moron. Banks/Financial institutions have the ability to do global money transfers with ease. The reason they can't/don't, is because of LEGAL reasons and regulatory restrictions from governments - it's not some technical restriction that crypto magically solves. Laws like "You can't let people fund terrorist groups". Crypto being able to do those sorts of things quickly is just a matter of them not obeying any of the laws or regulations from governments. That's not a 'good' thing in general. Many of the recent pushes from crypto sorts to get places like the States to recognize them, are basically resulting in banks getting less restrictions -- which really isn't a win. Crypto shows up and is like "We like sending money to north korea, so you gotta remove or neuter that whole know your customer thing for fintechs. Here Mr USA administration, we can pay you by buying millions of dollars of your personal 'crypto currency' to help with signing the bill. See, isn't it so much better to have no regulations/oversight on transactions?! It's win win!"

And the last negative I'll note, from my pov at least, is that the core mechanics of most crypto currencies is obfuscated and controlled by cryptobros. Financial industry people make money, but they don't make the sort of explosive, concentrated wealth that you see occur in crypto for the people who maintain those systems. That's partly because the financial industry is larger, and involves government components -- while crypto currencies are often just some techbro goin "let's fork bitcoin and stick a dog face on it and sell it to morons for big $$$$ then we can FTX it up fuckin in the bahamas with uggos!". It's the sort of obvious conflict of interest that they all try and bullshit their way out of -- one that typically doesn't exist in fiat setups, due to the multiple layers, and the role most govs fill in regulating things.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Hide money from government

You can't carry suitcases of money when you're fleeing a country, so cryptos it is...

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I’ve bought some online services with it.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s good for losing a bunch of money.

[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kind of like fiat currency

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

bold of you to assume that anyone outside of the Epstine class is holding enough cash for that to matter

[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

assume? do you think we don't have access to the data???

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 8 points 4 days ago

It's great for being paid while working abroad.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

you can buy web hosting or make donations without revealing your identity

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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Why are you asking a question when you clearly made up you mind already? :)

You are wrong of course, you can buy anything with crypto as long as the other person accepts crypto (there are dozens of marketplaces, not only darknet ones, e.g. xmrbazaar).
My instance hosting is paid for in Monero. I plan to change it soon to another hosting, which also accepts Monero. The domain is also paid for in Monero. Same for my VPN (Mullvad actually offers 10% off when you pay in crypto!) and mail. I regularly donate to projects such as GrapheneOS, Qubes, Whonix, TOR using Monero. I donate Monero to support people hosting things I use, e.g. invidious instances. Your employer absolutely can pay you in crypto if they choose to, and there are examples of people who do receive their salary in crypto. You could easily find examples/articles about that if you wanted to.
No, money is not defined by "everyone agreeing that it is valuable and willing to exchange it for goods and services". Do you think Zimbabwean dollar (or any other foreign currency other than a few most popular ones) is valuable? Would you agree to sell me your goods and services for it? Why not? Right, because it is not the currency YOU use. Other people use it, so it is money for them. Same with crypto. People use it as trustless p2p money whether you like it or not.

If you need to hate crypto so much please get back to arguments such as "oh no it uses a lot of energy and allows people to ~~freely exchange it for goods and services~~ buy drugs on the internet", at least those are correct. Please also subscribe to r/buttcoin if you use reddit.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

It si great for taking sucker’s money.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It’s a technology that allows you to verifiably possess a definite quantity of “a thing.” That thing is just virtual.

Think of it this way: shares in companies are also virtual things. You can’t build a bridge out of em.

But a stock exchange is there to sell them to you and they will keep track that yes, you do actually own X shares of company Y.

Instead of issuing shares on a stock exchange to raise money, a new company could just sell shares of itself by creating a new crypto. There would be a finite number of “coins” representing ownership shares. The company could control whether more can be created. And it would be verifiable who owns what.

So that verifying and quantity-control are both features of the software itself. You could say it’s good for those things. As I illustrated above, this could be used to virtualize ownership of something, including the buying and selling of shares of it.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These are the types of examples used, but I don’t not think it is actually good for these uses. If your account is hacked and someone takes the crypto, there is no way to reverse the transaction, now what the hackers own your company? If you can invalidate the shares and reissue new ones, then owning the crypto is not actually ownership of the company.

Even without theft what do you do when people simply lose access to their wallets. Maybe because they forget their password or they die and they never gave their heirs the information.

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[–] toebert@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

To be fair all it takes is for enough entities to exchange it between other assets. If you are in Europe, most stores won't sell you anything for your USD unless you exchange it into euros (except some edge cases), so it does feel kinda similar in that sense except cryptos don't really have a "home" country where they're universally accepted (bar some nations whose own currency has so throughly failed they adopted it).

There are some services which allow you to spend crypto by simply doing the exchange for you at the point of purchase into whatever currency the store uses (similar to visa/MasterCard/your bank doing this if you pay by card abroad).

I'll say ultimately though it doesn't change a lot, the idea of crypto is great and there are some where the implementation actually yields something that could be a better money (truly yours, not controlled by a government or a company necessarily, low fees, near instant transactions), but in the end there are just too many of them and they rock the boat too much for the well established financial institutions that they're just doomed IMO.

However, the technology itself I expect will end up being used against us by the ruling class in the coming years (i.e crypto currencies controlled by the government where they can set whatever rules they want on it).

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think this community is meant for rhetorical questions.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Maybe I phrased the OP poorly. The "can you buy a pizza" was rhetorical. The "is crypto good for anything." wasn't, though I suppose that was also poorly worded. I know people buy drugs with it etc, so it's used for something other than just speculation.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

There are a few services you van but online that accept crypto. Like hosting provider Vultr. Other things do accept bitcoin like non official student money transfer services.

But all of this is not as wide spread. I did use it a couple of time for actually transferring money, and also buying a software plus support.

Of of our clients (fashion) did setup Etherum payments for some physical products and their NFTs and actually got sales.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Heating.

But resistive electrical heating is slightly more efficient. Heat pumps are considerably more efficient.

So - buying drugs.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

and Senators

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Money laundering and gambling mostly

[–] GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

Sure! you can buy lots o things with it, if going through gift cards is ok for you. websites like coinsbee or bitrefill allows you to buy:

  • videogames (steam, keyshops etc)
  • fuel
  • traveling (trains, airplanes)
  • food (various supermarkets)
  • clothes

and more. I personally tried only videogames and amazon but it worked for me. i have a gift card for IKEA but still need to test it.

Also you don't need to give data aside from a mail so it's pretty private

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Cryptocurrency is a decentralized digital currency, it can be used for the same thing as any other digital currency, the difference being that you can use it without relying on a centralized authority like a bank or similar financial institutions.

Yes you can buy pizzas with it, although that's less common nowadays because there are more practical ways to pay for that and you probably don't mind the bank and government to know you buy pizzas.

I thought what made money money was everyone agreed it was valuable and was willing to exchange it for goods and services directly. I don't see that with crypto.

You don't? If I were to offer you 1BTC for your mouse, would you accept it? If you say no you're stupid, if you say yes you confirmed you see it as valuable and are willing to exchange it for goods directly.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The most famous transaction was for pizza. Your question is disingenuous baiting.

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