An attack on Poland would immediately invoke NATO Article 5, drawing in the combined forces of continental Europe, the UK, the US and Turkey. The world wouldn't need to worry about it going nuclear, conventional forces would have the Russians back over the Belarusian border by lunchtime.
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Unfortunately that's not necessarily what article 5 implies. It only states that the member nations will respond, not how exactly they will respond.
Then article 42 of the EU
I would love to believe you but looking at the sleepy AF response when Europe decided to help Ukraine...
Yeah, no, Poland is a buffer. Again.
Oh damn, I wasn't aware Ukraine was part of NATO
If you think the poles won't get betrayed I have a bridge to sell you
If Ukraine was NATO, we'd be out in all force already.
It is only because we don't have a defense treaty with them that we risk the NATO treaty if any NATO country decides to send troops. Since they are essentially deciding for every NATO country to enter the war then.
But if they attack a NATO country like Poland, then that is exact what NATO is designed for and nothing is risked.
Mate, I am not speaking about armed response but overall response. Europe was straight up sleeping. We are underarmed and our response times suck, and historically Poland always was seen as comfortable buffer zone.
I love your extremely oversimplified to the point of being ridiculous type response
Donald Tusk, it’s like some sort of a Donald Trump and Musk hybrid strain
Canada's new Liberal government, under threat of annexation from the US, is advancing a civilian disarmament agenda.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Source? I can’t find any mentions of gun control from Carney.
I know Trudeau went a bit hard on it but Trudeau’s gone
Can't you guys just lure American forces into the woods and attack them like Ewoks?
That's top secret defense information! We have a leak.
It's not total disarmament, hockey sticks are effective weapons.
Drones, teach them to fly drones.
I just imagined a future where drones are so pervasive and advanced against current defenses, the only real defence would be a electromagnetic pulse. Even losing all other electronic means of communication, infrastructure, etc., at least the explosive and chemical weapons death swarm that was coming just fell to the ground. And guns and gunpowder will still work.
(Losing most all electricity is probably not worth the trade off, just a short thought)
The stuff that the Brits recently tested is exactly an EMP pulse, though directional.
The thing is, you can harden the drones against that.
Wide dispersal EMPs are typically not that effective against smaller devices so drones with autonomous backups would be hard to effect in anything but a small area, even with a high altitude nuclear EMP.
Thought crossed my mind.
Poles ready to defend the country if those fears become a reality? A recent poll found that only 10.7% of adults said they would join the army as volunteers in the event of war, and a third said they would flee.
Understandable, but also kind of sad. Poland exists because its people fought back against authoritarian bastards.
Yeah, but due to gov fucking up and people struggling to make ends meet, patriotism fell a lot. Even a decade ago I'd say half of poles were patriotic and half weren't....and it fell hella lower than that.
Poland is going to be the monkey wrench in the gears for Putin's plan.
I'm big on Poland.
They're building bases close to the Finnish border. I almost feel sorry for them, but not really.
Joking aside though, if a new front opens it's highly likely it'll be here. Our politicians are already ensuring we have a plan, and ..we'll, we do.
If they want to fight us in the forests again I don't think it'll end like Putin thinks it will, no matter if it's summer or winter.
Their drones won't be as effective, and while they may well have a larger army now than when they started that'd change pretty quickly I believe.
russia can barely handle ukraine; they're never going to bother w europe.
Nothing bad ever came from underestimating your enemies right?
The same could be said for overestimating them, which can lead to defeatism.
I absolutely don’t see that as what’s happening here.
They’re simply taking a page out of Switzerland’s book, which is essentially “train literally everyone as a contingency, and make a public defense policy to bleed anyone white who tries to invade”.
Not if Poland keeps up like they have been.
Fuck the blyats.