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World loses patience with Trump as war no longer just about Iran (www.abc.net.au)

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

... world leaders are increasingly just dismissing the US President, his offensive taunts and, more importantly, any notion that there is method in his madness.

There is something about this particular war that is bonkers erratic even by the standards of this lunatic. It's as if he had been goaded into it, told to start it, without any reasoning at all. There was no plan, there was no rationale, there was no goal, there was no warning, there was no consultation.

There just was a military force that did whatever it was told to do, without ever questioning anything about it - legality, operational effectiveness, long-term consequences.

Now I appreciate the countries that make a figurehead head of state the nominal commander in chief of the military. It's a really stupid idea to vest control of the armed forces in someone with real power.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

any notion that there is method in his madness.

There IS method in his madness. Just, it's mostly not his method, you've got to peek behind the curtain. You have to remember with Trump, all he cares about is money and the appearance of 'winning'. A lot of his 'confusing' rhetoric is designed to pump 'n dump the market, so he and his close associates can make big bets for big profit.

For the darker intentions, you need to look to people like Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, Heritage Society. They've literally stated all their intentions in the P2025 documents.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 4 points 1 day ago

There just was a military force that did whatever it was told to do, without ever questioning anything about it - legality, operational effectiveness, long-term consequences.

This is still one of my gripes with a few friends. They never let go of the idea that the 'top generals' and such in the military would have their honor and do the right thing. Like, dudes, all the propaganda about the military lending aid and being a force of 'good' has never stopped us from bombing men, women, and children for the last however many years.

I think it finally sank in for one of them (a big ship loving guy) when our submarine torpedoed that unarmed Iranian ship coming back from a parade that we invited them to and then abandoned.

I have no sympathies for a single service member anymore. I can understand that for many, it was enlist or have a shitty life, but it doesn't excuse the fact that they are the foundation for the atrocities.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't lose patience with him like eight years ago? These people must have the patience of saints.

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago

Or fools.

[–] nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a pretty good article, and, while the headline is pretty accurate, it doesn’t do the content justice.

[–] stolenfat@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

your comment, sir, was enjoyed

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

I doubt it, just the other day like 30 countries got together to blame Iran on Hormuz strait closing. No words about the real culprit. We are still in an appeasing phase. 🤷

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are they gonna do about it?

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dismantling a intertwined global system that has been built in the last 80 years can't be done in an afternoon.

I hate the US as much as the other people here, I want to get rid of them and their influence on us as much as the next guy, but its completely unrealistic to do it suddenly and in a speedy manner. Its a deep swamp and we are up to our necks in it, we need to dig ourselves out carefully so we dont sink deeper.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are any such steps being taken? I'll be pleasantly surprised if this translates to action, but we've spent the last 30+ years using europe like this, so I'm skeptical if trajectory is just now going to reverse.

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. Theres all kinds of stuff happening, from EU based credit card/banking providers and digital payment systems to bringing industry back, supporting existing EU industry, streamlining the establishment of new companies, moving from US based service providers to EU based ones etc. Theres a whole bunch of new trade deals with not-USA countries already made and being made, in order to diversify trade so its not so reliant on the US.

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

On top of that, several EU countries have closed their airspace to US planes used for the Iran war, France has made a deal with Iran behind America's back to open the Strait of Hormuz to French ships, Germany is in the process of re-arming and has re-introduced the draft...

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