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[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Authoritarian Chinese gov is better overall, more progressive in R and D, and closer to socialism than USrael gov

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (6 children)

China’s leader Xi Jinping declared people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are Chinese and want peace.

Isn't that pretty much what Putin said about Ukraine before invading?

[–] TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's a common scheme, Authoritarian claims people in neighbouring country are ethnically/culturally the same as them, accuses the target country of suppressing "their" people, invades to "Protect" "their" people. Rinse and repeat.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Also Hitler called Austrians German before annexing them.

Well he was Austrian, not super surprising he felt that way about it.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I also don't think it's anything new?

I'm not sure deep into the details of taiwan and china, but iirc they both more or less agree that they are "the china", and just disagree on the exact details

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk but I believe the pretext was ethnically “Russian” people living in Ukrainian territories. It is true that the two countries share a great deal of ethnic heritage. The Rus people were from Kyiv.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No it was nothing of the kind. He claimed Ukrainians were basically Russian, that is not about Russian minorities.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think we’re splitting hairs. We agree that Putin is just using the subject of ethnicity as a tool for conquest.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, Putin will use any misinformation and manipulation he can, including making a terrorist attack and blame it on others to promote his agenda. That is how he came to power!

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No shit? The party line in Taiwan is the exact same as it is in mainland China: one China. The disagreement is over who is in charge. When you get off anplane in Taipei, you see a sign "Welcome to the Republic of China". When you get off the plane in Beijing, you see a sign that says "Welcome to the Peoples' Republic of China".

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hopefully the people of Chinas can break free

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think most people in China are happier than most people in the US.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Happier AND free would be better

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think they feel unfree.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

That's an issue practically everywhere

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this controversial? Don’t people in Taiwan consider themselves Chinese? Republic of China?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (15 children)

No, that is only the official line due to history and political pressure from China.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Taiwanese_identity

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[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

They don't consider themselves Chinese. But they have Chinese roots, with the vast majority of people having Chinese ancestry.

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