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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You know what the richest ore for finding metals for new batteries is? Old batteries. Same applies to solar panels. This is great to see.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also for aluminum it’s cheaper to recycle aluminum than to produce it from raw ore.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it takes insane amounts of electricity. There’s an aluminium smelter in NZ with an entire hydroelectric power plant dedicated to it. 13% of the total electricity supply of NZ dedicated to just one smelter.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

holy crap that's immense; how do you power concrete production?

Yeah ive played rimworld too.

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[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is going to make it even less of a reason for companies to invest in sodium batteries

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They have an entirely different use case.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

big oil's about to start yet another denialism campaigh

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I just want the fucking oil mafia to burn at sun’s temperature. They are such a fucking obstacle and disgrace to humanity’s development. Same goes for the big pharma. All the suffering just because of greed for a piece of paper with £/₹/$/€ on it.

Ok angry rant over.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism rewards profit. Imagine basing all aspects of life on profit making. Of course human needs, interests, environment health etc. take up a side-role in such a system.

And they're trying to rent seek wherever and whenever possible. Not too long we will be needing to pay for air.

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oil companies are today what the Catholic church were to science in the middle ages.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 day ago

But they're not. They're investing heavily in renewables as well so they can be the ones profiting from it.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is it a rant if you're just stating facts?

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[–] tgf@lemmy.world 219 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"The process starts with old batteries being separated and burned to strip away non-metal components. What's left gets crushed into something called black mass. This is essentially a powder packed with recoverable metals. From there, a water-based chemical treatment called hydrometallurgy pulls the lithium out. One clever distinction in this new process is that the recovered lithium hydroxide actually replaces a chemical traditionally used during refining. This cuts the carbon footprint by about 40% compared to older methods."

Article also said that previous methods got about 45% of the lithium from recycling.

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 77 points 2 days ago (1 children)

seems like a significant breakthrough

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

Nowhere near the advertised 90% in the title tho

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

WORSHIP DOOM

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Lithium can be a pretty metal, but I'm not sure it looks its best in this state.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 110 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Jerry Rigs Everything Video about lithium recycling to black mass.

Recycled lithium uses 70% less energy than virgin freshly mined lithium, and lithium, like aluminum, in infinitely recyclable.

Assholes like Jeremy Clarkson don't get this.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Around the time that MH370 was missing and I was still on Twitter. Clarkson posted a picture from his plane showing oxygen masks down and saying something like i hope we don’t die or something.

I called him out for being insensitive due tonMH370. He replied saying something like I’m on a plane dummy how am I supposed to know, but he was on Twitter from the plane and so did have internet.

That was then the catalyst for me receiving thousands of inboxes and DMs from his stans calling me an idiot for daring to call out JC.

I’ve never liked him since then. Then he punched someone on Top Gear and got fired. Now he’s a moaning farmer, right wing, alcoholic.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Jeremy Clarkson rims goats. Fuckin tail-lifter.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

He's an alcoholic Boomer comedian and opines on things he has no clue about.

[–] null@lemmy.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] UndergroundParking@lemmy.cafe 27 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Nothing. Lemmy being edgy teens.

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[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 105 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Ok it needs to be said. The smart play is to have governments to subsidize this process and build up the raw inventory for lithium. That way, ie (US) could have tons and tons of raw lithium without having to mine it.

[–] besmtt@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn't it be smarter to use old EV batteries for grid storage?

[–] FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why not both? Downcycle the old EV batteries for grid storage, then when they reach the end of useful life, recycle them. We need to resurrect the first 2 R's (Reduce, Reuse) to be able to survive on this planet.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are listed in order of importance.. reduce first, if you can't, then reuse. If you can't reuse, then recycle.

Problem is, we saw "recycle" and thougt "infinite resources" and ditched the other two.. turns out that most things cant really be recycled, so now it's just landfill all the way

[–] FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

I wish I could remember where I read it, but the focus on just Recycle was encouraged as the main narrative by corporations which didn't want to give up the myth of endless growth.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The batteries don't last forever, eventually, they need to be dealt with somehow.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lithium recycling has never been the problem. The problem is most EVs are new, and people aren't buying enough of them, so there isn't enough capacity of old batteries in the system yet for business to profit from building the plants to do the recycling. And now some stupid orange asshole has been sabotaging production, so we're not going to hit that tipping point for decades.

[–] Canigou@jlai.lu 18 points 2 days ago

In the USA. Us Europeans are happily treading toward carbon neutrality, even more since the cheetos' fun war with Iran.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

tl;dr:

Rub them on a big piece of carpet.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

I remember reading another article that said that their incinerated sewage waste had more gold per ton than their highest yielding mines.

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