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Ignoring the desire for state control a moment.
If they actually cared, they would spend the money on education and social services instead.
The internet is already age-gated, children cannot buy an internet connection.
It is adults who let them access it, unsupervised. Better parental controls and education/advice on how to use them is required for current and future parents.
Bingo. Why do they need an Internet connected device at all? Give them a dumb phone, and if they use a computer put it in a public area when it is online. Problem solved.
It is impossible for me to believe this has anything to do with protecting minors. None of these measures ever do.
they just find another way to make some money covering by children care
China level surveilance is coming to EU. Scary times.
It's identical system to how China ties your identity to your online activity.
Bingo.
It's what all governments have been trying to do for decades.
It's part of why they've been trying to get rid of cash.
It’s not? I’ve not checked in depth yet, but it’s supposed to be privacy protecting, via cryptographic proofs. Also, it’s open source.
You haven't read the article. It shows
Social media bad for kids but good for adults? Who the fuck are they trying to fool.
I would gladly trade all social media for no age verification.
We have a social media problem, not an age verification one.
I was starting to switch over all my services to european based ones but thry actually might do this worse. At least in the us congress people will fight about it forever (or at leadt they used to)
Its only a matter of time before they get Chat Control as well.
Nowhere is safe anymore.
Outside is!
Does Outside have porn?
Not the good kind.
Seriously, "just go outside" ignores that some people (like us) kinda need the internet to have community at all.
(We're furry, therian, and various other things. We can't just pick up a magazine or whatever and get furry porn of the exact kinks we're into. And even besides the whole porn thing. Also just, like... being able to talk to people. We need the internet for that, too.)
-- Frost
Isolating people like us is the point. We have to fight it
Yes, it’s in hedges.
Self hosting is the only real solution apparently, anything else gives power to corporations/governments to abuse.
Yeah i will use nextcloud but i am hosting it myself
And it's a lot harder to effectively enforce or combine with other services, such as ID, etc, because 50 states.
Fed can only do so much, and it only takes one state fighting it to cause it to fail or at least become bogged down.
Right, and i think it might ve unconstitutional but i would like it not to pass at all the wait for it to be repealed
Since absolutely no one has studied the tech before commenting.
It's:
Carry on.
Isn’t this the same one that has been found to be about as secure as a wet paper bag within hours of release? You can simply edit a text file in the apps data to remove the pin and face unlock lol
I have no idea why people claim that the open source template meant for others to build solutions on was some sort of finished and published app.
Zero-knowledge proof means that the app could actually be private. Seriously, this could be used for good.
Experts that EU chooses to ignore disagree.
I'm EU and we already have digital IDs in most countries, controlled by our governments and mandatory to access government and public administrations websites.
These IDs don't let websites collect more info that they already can without any IDs at all. If you think you're protected form Meta/Google/Microsoft/whatever profiling you, your IP, geo-locating you if you use a phone, just because they don't have your ID, I have a bridge to sell you.
That's not to say this thing is good, age-verification is bad and dangerous, they should educate people instead, both kids and parents. But having governments manage your ID is much less evil than giving it to private companies or baking it into an operating system.
It all comes down on how they implement this app, and the code being opensource is a good thing.
Nope! This is cryptographically impossible. See Signals sealed sender. It only works because Signal doesn't keep a map between account and the certs.
No it won't