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Uhmm…people give the Catholic Church hundreds of millions of dollars a year. The church is richer than some countries. I mean, I understand what he was trying to get at, but he might not be the best person to point that out.
If only Jesus would have been as explicit about his feelings on religious profiteering as he was about his attitude towards abortion, gays, and gun rights.
Underrated comment.
They do more for humanity through charity work than individual billionaires though.
As someone who's done pro-bono and charity work for several religious organizations ... the Catholics, Muslim and Jewish dioceses or denominations were always by the books. The Christian-based ones though? Every single one was shady, pulled in as much money for their family as possible and a few would even pull me to the side to ask about fudging numbers with their software.
The Christian and Baptist churches were mostly criminal, if not just in a moral stance, they were outright criminal. The precedent at least had checks and balances while the latter .... everyone is in on it.
This is like Jeffrey Dahmer bemoaning murderers, like Donald Trump complaining about the rich, like Mark Zuckerberg bitching about social networks
The Catholic church is filthy rich, unbelievably wealthy, and sitting on many generations of stolen wealth.
They own 170 million acres of blood-soaked land across the world, more than any other organization on the planet.
Sadly, they are still tax-free in much of the world. God knows what they are really up to
So? One can be part of the issue whilst addressing it. He’s an influential person, would you rather have him not say anything about it?
This guy is a badass. He is an individual. He is not the Catholic church, but is an individual person within that church. It's extremely bigoted to say "none of it matters" because of what other members of the Catholic church have done. It's like telling a Catholic person, you refuse to be their friend or listen to what they have to say because of what their church has done
I mean, you're right but people do that all the time. I'm not Catholic, but I was raised Catholic and people love to dismiss me as a human being all the time for the fact I attended church when I was a pre-teen, as if this makes me automatically a pedophile apologist or something... but the people who think this way are insane and there is no way to reason with them.
I did not take Pope Leo for a comrade. ✊
The right will be very mad about this
He makes a good point.
At the same time, how much has religion defrauded the common people?
Enemy of my enemy and all that. With the state of things the way they are, you bet I take what I can get.
Rather it be the catholic church doing the defrauding than the regime. At least the church has a (spotted) history of helping people. I mean they shined brightly during the black death, and they are a source of comfort for some people in the final moments. That, in of itself, is noble and something worth supporting despite a spotty record.
Compare that with the regime's looting the coffers with nothing remotely comparable.
The Catholic church is awful. ALL organized religion is inherently awful. That said, I am never going to shit on anyone trying to steer a giant machine of suck in a less shitty direction. Will he fix it? Hell no, but I genuinely wish he can manage to squeeze some good out of that abomination.
Best of luck to you based pope. I hope you manage some good.
That said, I am never going to shit on anyone trying to steer a giant machine of suck in a less shitty direction.
So you wouldn't shit on someone from the trump administration trying to steer the direction? The only way to manage some good out of this cult is by shutting it down.
I was a Catholic, and the church is big on social justice. I used to listen a lot of sermons about government corruption and social inequality that goes on for nearly two hours.
Is the Catholic church the biggest pedophile ring on the planet? Yes. But hats off to a broken clock that point towards the good direction, but only does so twice a day.
I was also raised Catholic. Went to school for it even! I'd say that the absolutely stellar sermons/lectures/whatever are more on track eith what Jesus would actually teach. I learned there was a lot of gray area in most things, because there's so many different situations. But after moving away from the community that in my opinion taught religion well, I saw how much worse others are. I haven't really been Christian in a long time, so this was mostly joining family for holidays, but some are really awful. From bringing up unnecessary things like critical race theory to straight ignoring the catechism. I guess all of that just agrees, yeah, it's right twice a day.
With Epstein's iceberg exposed, I'm not even sure they are the biggest.
Epstein is a few hundred, the Catholic Church has 6,000 pedos caught just in the USA.
I'll upvote you for the sentiment, but any brief consideration of the scope of the church worldwide yields a significantly broader and more accessible footprint than the top tier of wealth hoarders. The valuation of the church versus those individuals is probably equal, though.
True enough. I concede the notion.
I cant believe Im agreeing with the Pope and Im on Irans side in a war.... but here we are
Things are getting WEIRD
So once again the pope doesn't name names. He has the power to make statements against Trump and his shit, but dances around the issues instead.
because even the church is susceptible to legal action.
this was an official decree from the church. you can't just openly accuse individuals because you want to, that's how you get sued.
just because you can kick one person's ass doesn't mean you go around looking for a fight from everyone.
And the Catholic Church is one of the richest bodies in the world.
Reminder that the Catholic church just instituted an absolute trans healthcare ban in the USA - including for adults. This is worse than the Trump regime's laws, plus the Catholic church owns an astounding number of hospitals.
He is not a "woke pope". This is the Catholic church.
Isn't the Catholic church like a big tent with the pope as its figurehead? Obviously he can steer the church in a certain direction, but does he necessarily condone everything that happens under its banner?
does he necessarily condone everything that happens under its banner?
by doing nothing about it, absolutely yes.
Maybe true, but not very ~~relative~~ relevant to the fact that international companies more powerful than some nations are gaming every system they can to squeeze more profit, by the expense of everyone else.