Be sure to search YouTube for Rogue One The Andor Cut. Someone is tweaking Rogue One to seem like it was filmed after Andor.
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Now go watch a new hope. Completely changed the film for me.
I was so disappointed when they announced there would be no season 3 as originally planned
There was suppose to be five.
Every three-episode arc of season two was suppose to be a full season. But Disney said the show was way too expensive so Tony Gilroy negotiated one final stupid-expensive season and rolled everything he has outlined into it.
TBH I think it worked better that way - kept the momentum up, and there wasn't a wasted moment
I agree. Trim out all the unnecessary stuff, end on a high note.
It also reached the time scale boundary. It was taking too long to film. While each season took several years of production, filming and post production, story wise, every season was just a few months later on the plot. While the main character was a young man at the start, by the last season he was a solidly mature man, and skarsgard was edging closer to old age too. But only a bit over a year had passed on the plot.
Every lengthy show hits this wall, it's even worse with child actors but adults are not exempt.
Yeahhhh I think the Frank thing is a stretch.
Anyway. Heineken? Fuck that shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon!!
Also, yes Andor is the GOAT.
Is this written by AI?
I don't think so, I think OP just enjoys using --, some platforms/text entry methods automatically convert that into em-dashes
OP gets the name of a character wrong - Sol Guerrero is Saw Gerrera, which an AI probably wouldn't do, and the usage of two question marks, incomplete sentence fragments, ellipses everywhere... I think OP is all human
I use Voyager and maybe it’s creating the em dashes. Not sure but I’m a little creeped out to think my writing sounds like AI. How bizarre — especially when I’m having a media high.
Jesus… I just did the em dash… it’s my thumbs. I also use ellipses… just weird stuff about me.
You're all good, OP! People are just hypervigilant. I'm autistic and people occasionally assume or ask if I'm AI, just because my writing style can be a bit overly formal sometimes I think. Don't give it a second thought!
Thanks! I don’t think I reflect much on my tone.
99 percent invisible has an episode on em dash. They did it because someone who had been using it way before AI existed suddenly had people claiming that he used AI to do his writing for him.
Plenty of classic authors have been tagged as AI generation because they use things that are now deemed artificial. Yet, it's writing styles that have been around a long time. It's almost as if the models were trained on some things that a lot of good writers use.
Screw sabotaging writing to look non-AI, it's our writing!
One good thing that's come of all this for me is learning about em dash, en dash, and hyphens far more than I ever learned in school. They do have their place, and while AI may overdo it a lot or wrongly, that doesn't make the punctuation itself evil, or not have a purpose.
Also, as an American, I like the British style of using en dash better, but can't use it here because publishers would turn their noses up at it. But it looks better.
with those strange -'s it seems so
Rogue One is my favourite Star Wars film by a long way. Andor is the icing on the cake. I'm so glad you enjoyed them!
Rogue One was absolute shit due to the troubled production and two disparate creative voices. It's not just a bad Star Wars movie, it's a bad movie entirely.
Problem #1 was they didn't start with a script, they started with a supercut of scenes from other movies so they could determine how long each scene should be before writing it.
https://kottke.org/17/01/rogue-ones-unique-storyboard-remixed-from-100s-of-films
"Then I used dialogue from other movies to give you a sense of how long it would take in other films for someone to be interrogated. So for instance, when Jyn gets interrogated at the beginning of the film by the Rebel council, I used the scene where Ripley gets interrogated in ‘Aliens’.
So you get an idea of what movies usually do."
But the script didn't matter because Gareth Edwards would shoot a bunch of stuff off script every day. He called it "Indie Hour" and it generated a bunch of footage that looked good, but was incomprehensible and unusable. They put a bunch of it in the trailers which ended up confusing everyone because it wasn't ever intended to be in the movie.
"“It was just a way for the crew of understanding, for now, we’re just going to do loads of random shit,” Edwards said. “Don’t try to ask, we can’t explain.
“It would just be things I thought were a beautiful moment or ‘This is a great idea’ and a lot of the stuff in the [first] trailer ended up through that process.”"
So, no surprise, wasting production time and money got him fired and they brought in Tony Gilroy to save the film... Who says:
"I’ve never been interested in Star Wars, ever. So I had no reverence for it whatsoever. I was unafraid about that,” said Gilroy. “And they were in such a swamp … they were in so much terrible, terrible trouble that all you could do was improve their position.”
So you get conflicting scenes where Andor cold-bloodedly murders an informant as an introduction to his character (Gilroy), vs. a conflicted Andor, sent to assassinate a legitimate military target, but when the time comes he gets super sweaty and... oh... just... can... not... pull... that... trigger! (Edwards).
So which is it? Murderer of innocent informants or PTSD conflicted soldier who can't do his one job?
Speaking of "one job", let's talk about the Vader hallway fight (Gilroy). Vader force grabs every one and every thing in that hallway except the ONE THING he's there for, the Death Star Plans. Those have plot armor, they HAVE to get away. So why be so stupid as to put Vader in the same hallway? Empire's Vader would have simply gone "Oh, don't mind if I do!" (YOINK!)
But, again, Gilroy was never a fan of Star Wars... so we get Vader watching the plans sail away on the Blockade Runner... which directly conflicts with the classic opening of Star Wars where he states that transmissions were beamed to the ship by rebel spies... No, according to Rogue One, he personally WITNESSED that shit.
Gilroy's position of derision for Star Wars is the polar opposite of someone like Dave Filoni or Jon Favreau and he told his Andor crew to not have reverence for the property either:
So, no, not watching Andor. I'm sure it's a fantastic commentary on space fascism, but it's not Star Wars. If you want to make or watch a WWII movie, go do that, but don't hijack another property to do it.
It is a fantastic exploration of how fascism comes into being and, unfortunately, very timely. It's a great story that happens to use the setting of the Star Wars universe as a vehicle because that fall into authoritarianism was already built into the arc.
You've got the Vader scene all misunderstood by the one assumption that he had a clue what he was looking for, only that somewhere on that ship the Rebels had something that showed plans. Want to really take a logical jump? Then Vader should have just blown up all the ship then and there, then gone after the few that did get away (and might have had plans too). But see, that's one of the messages in Andor... the arrogance of control is often its own enemy. Hell, even in Kenobi, that point was made and utilized (you probably aren't a fan of that either).
It's fine if you don't partake. I just think you're doing it because you got a bad taste from one thing and assume it's all the same.
A bad taste from one thing and a complete lack of trust in the show runner.
He's not interested in Star Wars, I am. That's the key difference.
I'm sure it's very good for what it is, but it's not Star Wars.
It would be like if someone told me "Oh, you like salads? Man, I have a great salad recipe, you take chicken breast, cut it into pieces, marinate it in soy sauce overnight and then grill it. Take an onion bun, paint one side with peanut sauce, the other side with hoisin sauce, pile it up with shredded cabbage and carrots and cover with Thai sweet chili sauce, top it with the chicken. It's great!"
"Yeah, but what you describe is a sandwich, not a salad."
"Well, you know, I never liked salads, I have no reverence for them."
(it is an AWESOME sandwich though)
That analogy doesn’t apply at all. It’s more like if a chef says, “I don’t particularly care about salads, but here’s a salad I made,” and hands me the most delicious salad I’ve ever had. I would enjoy the hell out of it and not complain that it doesn’t count as a salad because he’s not a salad fan
Except what Gilroy produced isn't Star Wars. 😉
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Sad
I agree, Rogue One was incredibly sad.
Filoni and Favreau love star wars, absolute fans, know everything there is to know, revere the IP like apostles at the altar of their god.
And yet they're driving it to death by slopification. Everything they've done has been wet cardboard. Every piece is a memberberries tour. Nothing is fresh but regurgitated. Scripts are nonsensical, acting is stilted, cinematography is cookie cutter. The practical props art is fine, I guess, but many wardrobes and makeup are more than questionable. And the worst still, it's not fun anymore. None of their stories are fun or entertaining, Ahsoka could put a wired up coke maniac to sleep.
Mandalorian has been a delight! Looking forward to the movie!
I get what you're saying on scripting though, the Acolyte was awful. Bits of Kenobi were clearly broken. The scooter trash in Boba Fett was laughable.
But none of it made me rage the way Rogue One did. Well, Last Jedi. Phantom Menace. Rogue One is absolute bottom of the barrel.
The one I feel more sad about than angry is Rise of Skywalker... it was supposed to be Leia focused and then Fisher up and died. 😞 Not sure what they could have done there. Didn't help that Last Jedi painted them into a corner.
I don't remember hearing any Nirvana on the soundtrack. 🤔 Where'd you find 'em?