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Suddenly you don't hear about P.Diddy as well
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I do understand why the state wants to prosecute him, but I also think the public deserved to know what Snowden revealed. It's definitely the kind of thing the pardon power was created for, not for drug lords to bribe their way back into freedom.
The american public are just overworked sheep… the proof they did not deserve this info, is in that they got it and literally did nothing about it.
To this day poeple won't stop using Meta and Twitter and there are 29 extra reasons to never touch those platforms again
I do understand why the state wants to prosecute him
Because he exposed the state for being a massively illegal and corrupt pile of shit directly perpetrating crimes against not just the American public, but the world at large?
Like yeah, I understand why cartels kill informants, that doesn't make them justified in doing so.
I remember a few years ago John Oliver flew to Russia to interview him. He showed him a bunch of vox pop interviews of young people in America asking if they knew who Edward Snowden was and what he did, and almost all of them had no idea.
You could visibly see him die inside after watching it.
I have to belive that most of these quizzes where "reporter" walks around asking questions are fake or just show the stupidest answers.
It has to be so. No way the general populace is that stupid. Please say they are fake.
Edit; Love how many people take their time to comment how obscure Edward Snowden is now, when i meant these quizzes as general.
Doesn't he live in Russia now? Probably not.
I think about him regularly. You know now would be a good time for europe to get him to a better place.
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It's kind of sad. He sacrificed his freedom to let us know about surveillance of the citizenry and we shrugged a little and accepted all the surveillance they could throw at us.
People dont care about their privacy one bit. They want their tiktok brain rot.
This is such a "phones bad" comment, but holy shit is it true. If you tell people why you don't have WhatsApp and instagram or whatnot, they just look at you like you are the idiot. Yeah they are evil, steal and sell my data and rot my brain but have you seen this bot posting ai videos of cats?
Sounds ok except for living in Russia.
Edward Snowden is a permanent resident and naturalized citizen of Russia, living in Moscow with his wife and two sons. Granted citizenship by President Vladimir Putin in 2022, he remains in exile to avoid prosecution in the US under the Espionage Act. Snowden continues to criticize Russian policy while working in IT and presiding over the Freedom of the Press Foundation
Living in Russia and criticizing russian policy sounds like how those intrusive thoughts about jumping from windows get into your head...
Snowden continues to criticize Russian policy
I'm totally showing my ignorance here but I'm surprised they let him do that
They actually have parties in Russia.
Not the Blue/Red MAGA circlejerk
And anybody who disparages Putin gets poisoned. It's such a wonderful system, right?
yawn, sure
the usa literally trapped him in russia while he was flying back to the us, by cancelling his passport. Also putin sees him as a useful propaganda tool as well.
Thanks for the update. I didn't know he had children, but I guess life moves on. I still think it is absolutely shameful that Europe wasn't and isn't able to allow Snowden to live in Europe.
That's what happens when the US waits to cancel your passport until you are stuck in the transit hub of a Russian airport waiting for your next flight out of the country.
iIRC it took like 12 months until Russia granted Snowden asylum and he could leave the airport hub.
It was revoked before he left China. https://apnews.com/general-news-587786e6e63b4dc2b70c471606d7f584
That didn't stop China from ignoring his asylum request following his release of documentation of hacked Chinese systems and kicking him out of the country because whether you have a valid passport doesn't matter for geopolitical issues. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1259508/edward-snowden-us-government-has-been-hacking-hong-kong-and-china
Russia was under no obligation to keep Snowden instead of letting him continue to Ecuador. Putin just wanted to use him as a bargaining chip with the U.S., but the U.S. understood that all his documents were already public, so Putin hasn't been able to play that card well yet.
Ah you are right. I seem to have gotten it mixed up with the initial 1 year refugee status he was granted, before the first 3 year temporary residency permit.
Either way, the US tried to prevent his leaving Hong Kong but however they submitted it, their request didn't comply with Hong Kong law so there was no legal basis for them to detain him.
Four countries had offered Snowden permanent asylum: Ecuador, Nicaragua, Bolivia, and Venezuela. No direct flights between Moscow and Venezuela, Bolivia, or Nicaragua existed, however, and the U.S. pressured countries along his route to hand him over. His intended destination was Ecuador, but his passport being revoked while he was in flight from Hong Kong meant he was stuck in Russia.
He had given all copies of the evidence he had to journalists in Hong Kong reporting on American issues, specifically so when travelling through Russia they would have nothing to leverage.
Snowden said in July 2013 that he decided to bid for asylum in Russia because he felt there was no safe way to reach Latin America.
Considering they grounded Evo Morales' plane because they thought he was on it, I'd say that's a fair bet.
Like that Tom Hanks movie! I think it's called The Terminal
Which itself is based on the true story of Mehran Karimi Nasseri who lived in Terminal 1 of Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, France, from 1988 to 2006.
It is uncommon, but passports being invalidated during travel does happen.
Wikipedia says this guy was mostly responsible for what happened to him. He allegedly lost his passport, and refused any help from France and Belgium.
He actually sent his passport away to Belgium while en route to London, refused to sign a new passport with his real name, demanding one with the name Sir Alfred and no mention of his Iranian citizenship, and returned to the airport even after he had left it once to go to the hospital.
Sounds to me like he got used to his life there, with the fame and not needing to work.
He also made $200k from the filming rights.
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Snowden should get a fair trial but the US won't let him argue that his whistleblowing was for the greater good and outweighs state secrecy clauses
Celebrating the singular person most responsible for Trump initially taking power is always weird to see because it is usually by people who you'd presume are Anti-Trump-Putin-Netanyah. I guess if you don't read further into it other than "he leaked us gubberment secrets cool" he is a cool guy.
could you elaborate on that a bit?
He gave the NSA's tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia. It is pretty self elaborating is there anything in particular you want to discuss?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
No, none of that is correct. He exposed the government metadata collection program to the Gaurdian, then the Obama administration revoked his passport while he was changing flights in Russia and he was forced to seek asylum there. There's no evidence that he gave the Russians any classified materials, and he's long maintained that the only materials took were shared wirh the Gaurdian.
In fact, your own Wikipedia article that you just shared mentions Snowden exactly once, in a footnote, and it links to an article in which Snowden criticizes Wikileaks for being careless in how it handled the DNC email leaks. The idea that Snowden helped Russia hack the 2016 election is ahistorical nonsense based on recycled intelligence community lies that were adopted by liberals who don't know the difference between Snowden and Assange.
His passport was revoked while he was still in Hong Kong. You don't need a passport to be deported. He's in Russia because Putin wants him there, not because of passport issues.
His passport was cancelled less than 24 hours before his arrival in Russia. Either he was already in transit when the passport was cancelled, the Hong Kong government was not aware of the cancellation when they let him leave, or Hong Kong fudged the paperwork because they were getting heavy pressure from the U.S. to extradite Snowden and they wanted him gone. To my knowledge, it's still unclear which of those is true, but in any case, he says he was headed to Ecuador, he had Ecuadorian emergency travel documents, and other famous leakers like Assange have gone to Ecuador for aid, so there's really no reason to doubt that claim.
Ooo great bullshit but I never said anything about hacked I said influence and power then linked to an article about russia's influence and power.
If you have to make shit up to engage just fuck off seriously what is the point?
You said Snowden, "gave the NSA's tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia." This did not happen. There is no evidence he shared anything with the Russian government, he has long denied that he gave the Russian government any of the materials he took with him, and the only people who suggested otherwise are security agency hacks who tried to smear him in 2014. You're treating old, unsubstantiated accusations of Snowden passing materials to Russia as proof that he materially helped them influence the 2016 election. It's absolute nonsense.
I'll take the intelligence community over the pinky promise of a traitor any day.
You'll clearly believe anything, even if you don't understand it. Explain what you think Snowden did that materially help the Russians? How did a metadata collection program help hack John Podesta's emails? Or build Russian troll farms? Share one intelligence source that you think made a credible case that Snowden shared information with the Russians.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, "maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don't know," in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, “maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don’t know,” in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Seriously what is the point if you are just inserting shit. Why would my entire belief be based on something I have never seen? You're disingenuous there is no point actually engaging in a discussion with you. How fucking self righteous do need to be to confidently presume you know why someone knows something. Reel it in mate.
Then correct me. Back up any of the claim that Snowden, "gave the NSA's tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia,' with a single source that actually says that. Or even just explain in your own words what you think Snowden did to help the Russians.
Ill be blunt; Trump's NSPM-7 instructs intelligence agencies to treat dissenting Americans as domestic terrorists and Congress is currently trying to extend the FISA authorization that let's intelligence communities gather their data. The very thing that Snowden was trying to warn us about is currently happening, right now, as we speak, under Trump. So I don't have a lot of patience for conspiracy theories about Snowden and Russian influence campaigns.
You have established yourself as a bullshitting liar that is the extent of the conversation I'll be having with you. We can keep talking about how you are a bullshitting liar if you like I bet I can make you a better person.
"Give any evidence that what you said about Snowden aiding Russia is true."
"I will only discuss how you are a big lair that hurt my feelings."
Anyway, I'm done here, but thanks for the Dunning-Kruger demonstration.
More bullshit... Ah the old "im done here" comment. Did you tweet you were quitting twitter too? Make one last post on reddit?
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