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No not "too woke", don't apologise for calling this bullsh*t out. People make lots of excuses for him but he settled one case; he was aquitted in one case but further people have made accusations - supposedly 10-15 (including a family with 5 children).

The Michael Jackson biopic is definitely a whitewash; it's produced by the estate that has a vested interest in protecting his financial legacy. It was going to try to cast doubt on the Chandler case but settlement from that case actually agreed no movie representing the family could be made by Jackson or his estate.

It's not woke to find this disgusting.

No, You are not too woke. However, being accused of a crime is not the same as committing the crime. Sleeping in bed with a child isn't a crime. Settling out of court isn't an admission of guilt. Making a biopic about Michael Jackson, the king of pop, is a no brainer for me.

I feel sorry for what happened to him and to others as a result, I still enjoy his music but I won't see the movie, I guess that's about my feelings on it.

We also need to remember that some people have reason to believe that he was outspoken about protecting the children from Epstein and that culture of child rape and trafficking. And those people, who believe this, also believe that your belief and opinions about MJ being a child rapist was a smear job against them by the Epstein Class.

I have a friend who worked for, and alongside MJ (they’re credited on at least one album). They became a personal friend and have a ton of amazing stories and insane memorabilia. On the day Michael died, his phone rang and rang with a LOT of people wishing him condolences.

They tell me that MJ never really got a childhood, and in some ways lived his childhood through other children. My friend spent a couple nights at his Neverland ranch with his own kids and tells me that he trusted MJ and doesnt believe for a minute that he was actually guilty of anything untoward, and that things like “sleepovers” really did happen but were really from a place of innocence and MJ just wanting to have that childlike experience that he didn’t get.

I'm not seeing this movie because I'm not sure whether he was a child molester or not. There are rumours now that he actually protected kids from Epstein but I can't decide what to believe.

All famous people are famous for something important. And their other personal traits are less important. Especially now, when the guy is dead long time ago. It is good when somebody is nice all around. But it doesn't mean that we should forget somebody influential because of their personal life.

You're overreacting.

Don't we have movies about Hitler? Try to apply your logic to Hitler and say if we should have movies about him or not.

In lieu of facts, I think most apologists who know the broad strokes of his life tend to address his behavior as the result of the significant abuse he received as a kid. I'm not really familiar with his behavior beyond the highlights, but I don't know if he was ever accused of having raped any of the kids. I know he generally engaged in very creepy behavior with the kids, and the pedophilia was heavily implied though.

To answer your question, yes, I think it's a creepy cashgrab at best. I might watch it on a long flight out of curiosity if it's available, but I don't forsee seeking it out.