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The Privacy Iceberg

This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.

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The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.

The tip of the iceberg is titled "The Brainwashed" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing to hide". The logos depicted in this section are:

The surface section of the iceberg is titled "As seen on TV" with a quote beside it that says "This video is sponsored by...". The logos depicted in this section are:

An underwater section of the iceberg is titled "The Beginner" with a quote beside it that says "I don't like hackers and spying". The logos depicted in this section are:

A lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Enthusiast" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing I want to show". The logos depicted in this section are:

An even lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Activist" with a quote beside it that says "Privacy is a human right". The logos depicted in this section are:

The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled "The Ghost". There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:

  • A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing "no electronics"
  • An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing "living in a log cabin in the woods"
  • A picture of gold bars, symbolizing "paying only in gold"
  • A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing "faking your own death"
  • An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing "hiding ones identity in public"

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what wrong with steam

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is the first time I've seen an iceberg meme with sources and explanations for each item. Fantastic. Your work is appreciated.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

To be honest, and it wouldn't work here, but I sometime enjoy the cryptic nature of iceberg memes at the lower ranks. It's like a scavenger hunt.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how you need more and more technical knowledge to go deeper into privacy, until the last level, which is basically giving up on technology itself.

[–] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The last level is living in a cabin in the woods and writing manifestos about industrial society and the ills of technology O_o

[–] mmhmm@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was at the bike shop a few weeks back and a ghost walked in. He came in wearing a medical mask covered by a bandana, sunglasses, cap. They wore gloves, long sleaved pants and shirt.

First question from staff, 'this a robbery?'

Ghost, 'no, I just need 27 2.5 tubes, miss.'

They get the tubes, he agrees. Staff asks if he has an account. Ghost says, "nope, why would I need one?" Staff says they do it for records, insurance claim assist, and discounts. Ghost goes with a John Doe, pays cash and peaces the fuck out.

Total King, but dude was given up a lot. Half of us were drinking beers enjoying a warm evening in spring. I hope he has had some good rides.

I can say with confidence thay he was a white male. In his 50s. About 5'10". 140 lbs-ish. If anyone wants to get any tips, good luck!

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would drop off the face of the earth only to stash porn mags all over the woods.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Sometimes anonymity is itself a unique identifier.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's genuinely wild that Firefox and LibreWolf are nowhere on these

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Probably because people above the waterline don't know Mozilla exists, and people below have seen how things have been going lately.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you explain why you would think Steam is so bad? I would argue they're pretty fair, especially with the option to buy steam cards for cash to not disclose your personal data. Does the client do some unsavory shit?

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seeing steam at the top makes me question the list. Likely a hate of DRM rather than privacy

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeap, and Brave in the middle. They only pretend they are for privacy, but they are the very opposite.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah i hate when I see people using Brave, because they have been brainwashed.

Does anyone remember when they were injecting their own referral links into links for online stores (99% certain they did this pls prove wrong if you know better)? This alone leaves them with 0 trust in my books.

[–] 9bananas@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago

afaik the client does collect a bunch if data, most (all, i think? but not a 100% on that) of which is opt-in.

they do need stuff like IPs for internet related features.

telemetry wise there's the steam hardware survey, which is opt-in, and it asks every single time it attempts to collect your systems hardware and OS information. this could technically be identifying information, but since it's opt-in it's not a privacy violation and it's entirely optional. (plus it's super useful for all involved: users, devs, and steam. it's kind of a win-win and straight up necessary info for devs to know which hardware they should optimize for)

they might be putting it at the top because steam has native support for DRM?

but that's also weird, because DRM isn't a privacy violation. it's a shitty practice, barely does anything, barely works, and keeps breaking or hobbling otherwise perfectly good games, all of which is shitty, but it's little to do with privacy. and the dev has to specifically opt-in and integrate it as a feature...unless they're thinking of 3rd party DRM that can be waaay more intrusive, like Vanguard... THAT'S a privacy and security nightmare just waiting to blow up in people's faces.

otherwise...i haven't really heard anything bad about steam privacy wise?

doesn't mean that there's nothing to be concerned about, but i feel like there'd been some news about it if there was...

[–] dontblink@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

I think I'm probably slowly transitioning to "the ghost" but more as a matter of digital minimalism than for privacy lmao

[–] mycamgirl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't put Telegram at that level. I would put it in "The Brainwashed." Its encryption is disabled by default. You need to manually enable it on each chat, and you can't enable it on group chats. The app gives a false sense of privacy. Telegram flaunts its end-to-end encryption, but it never mentions that it is disabled by default, and it refuses to enable the default. The final result is that people are not using the feature.

A cryptographer and professor wrote a good piece about Telegram's encryption, calling it "unusual" and the "non-standard authenticated encryption mode ever invented": Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?

[–] iterable@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Gold is great until you find out you can manufacture it and mass production was kept secret to avoid what happened with diamonds.

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Using basic things like Graphene OS and keepass shouldn't be considered privacy activist