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I’m seeing a bunch of posts insinuating that this most recent assassination attempt was fake. Why do people think this? I’m out of the loop.

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[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Who made millions off the Polymarket bet that Trump would have an assassination attempt again?

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The response was too canned and uniform. There's no fact finding, no actual concern for what happened here its all just rhetoric aimed at curtailng free speech. Add in the FBI director weighing in way too early and it all points to a setup.

There's a real possibility the guy that did the shooting is the target of an FBI entrapment scheme or something similar.

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[–] lifeinlarkhall@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

When you repeatedly lie and act like an AH about some pretty major stuff, why would you expect people to believe ANYTHING you claim? 🤷‍♀️ Be more of a surprise if the guy ever spoke for 3 minutes without a single lie at this point lol

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's the kind of thing he would do. Putin does it all of the time, and you know how Trump feels about him. One time Putin staged a takeover of a theater, and then gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside. They got dragged across the ground and stacked up in public busses to be taken to the hospital. Over 100 died. They refused to publish the actual total. For a press op.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

gassed the theater. With hundreds of innocent members of the public inside

That's terrible! And just double-checking with a bit of searching, yeah, this was a real incident. Whether it was "staged" is unclear (not enough evidence to support or deny it due to the lack of an investigation). But the Russian authorities did indeed release a noxious gas into the theatre without any sort of evacuation or coordination with health services, yet the official report by the Kremlin hails it as a success even though over a hundred people died?! I feel like, staged or not, that is something that should be criticised.

For a bit of context, Russia was invading Chechnya, which declared independence after the dissolution of the USSR, and a Chechen militant group took over a theatre and held everyone in it hostage (how they did that, I'm not sure. Some of the sources blame it on negligence of Russian intelligence, or suggest that authorities in the area were bribed). There was a siege of the theatre, and by the second day, people started to get shot. Afterwords, the Russian special forces gassed the theatre before entering it in an assault, and most of the hostages, as well as the Chechen militants, were killed. Additionally, authorities in Russia did not say what the gas was, meaning the people administering first aid had to guess, causing more death and permanent injuries than was necessary.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Moscow-theater-hostage-crisis (Britannica)

https://academic.oup.com/milmed/article/189/9-10/228/7454807 (journal article)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20067384 (BBC)

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The quote I saw elsewhere that summed it up best for me is, "even if it's real, it's still fake".

The whole thing was just a bit too rubbish, like, if you were going to try shooting the President, the events as report seem like such an obviously useless way to go about it that there's got to be something else going on.

My favourite conspiracy theory is that it's their way of getting an already-sympathetic White House press corps to feel like they're part of the whole thing, that attacks on the President are also attacks on them personally - trying to create a feeling that they and Trump are all trauma survivors who are in it together.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

people are really stupid. they are really, really stupid. they can't imagine the simplest answer being the correct one. they have to think of something super complicated and unlikely and then insist on it being the correct explanation. there no reason anyone should think like this

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It really feels like there's an unseen hand making up these claims and pushing it out there which a big group of people then just run with it. Id love to be able to study where we're seeing these first instances of these theories popping up. Those places should be watched

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do you suspect that there’s an organized disinformation campaign responsible for amplifying these ideas?

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

within the first few minutes, real people were replying to the tweets and Bluesky posts saying that it must be fake. maybe lots of people think everything that happens is fake

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't that be evidence that this was poisoning the well

[–] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (29 children)

Probs coz of the weird footage by some people. Guests sitting there still eating, others grabbing bottles, people smiling and chatting afterwards. People also are assuming that each attempt on his life was so bad that it felt staged (the way his ear looked after the first one, how incompetent the shooters were etc, theres lots of things flying around in comments). And then there's the lack of sympathy for Trump so most people would want any reason to keep hating him.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

real one would have succeeded

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 20 points 3 days ago

I trust Trump to do whatever makes him have more wealth and power and its easy to see how he would use this to claw at both.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 32 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Forgive me if some of the details are a little off, happy to be corrected, but:

  • the first attempt during the campaign was almost certainly fake.
  • barbie lady said something about "shots fired" a few hours before the incident, as though she had misunderstood something in the group chat.
  • last week a judge said the only basis on which Trump could build the Ballroom was over security concerns.
  • moments after the incident Trump said that they need the Ballroom because of security concerns at the WH.
  • the photos do look pathetically staged, although the videos less-so.
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[–] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

There seems to be a coordinated effort to push this theory. I don't know if it's strictly Lemmy or if it's also on Facebook and Reddit as well.

It's hard to say exactly what they are trying to accomplish. Do they want to actually convince other people that it's a conspiracy, or do they want to give the impression that lots of people believe in a conspiracy? I couldn't say.

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[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because there's no reason to believe it's legitimate and every reason to believe it's fake.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Just sneak in a Javelin, I don't think it will miss

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just another episode of trump whatever show. Who cares. I stopped watching that series months ago. It just got too stupid

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[–] schwim@piefed.zip 28 points 3 days ago (21 children)

I think it's just because the PA event was so obviously faked, his handlers have proven they are willing to use a fake attempt to gain favor and he seems to be very unfavorable right now.

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[–] glasratz@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point I've seen people spread this theory even if they don't really believe in it. It's ammunition in a propaganda war. It seems like it's needed.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

It seems like it’s needed.

I don’t think misinformation is ever helpful, really. It has proven to be pretty toxic for society at large. I think we should avoid it. I know Trump spews this stuff constantly but that’s also one of the main reasons why he lacks credibility. We shouldn’t forfeit our credibility, too. I know the left is struggling in the US right now, but there are many reasons for that. The left’s distaste for misinformation is not one of those reasons.

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[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Because it looked staged, dude never did one before, made a big stink about going, then suddenly a half naked man is there? Nah, fake as fuck. All of the attempts were fake so far.

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