Question. Does it matter which you login to all that much? Many of my subs are not world... but my login is. Has been for a long time. I never really think about it.
this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2026
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it is an issue if any of the subs that are outside of your instance are defederated
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We need to ask the rationale for the decisions. I am very much opposed to any genocide, whether by direct action, a third party or inaction. If Zionist practices are leading to genocide then I need to call it out. If Israels current practice is to create genocide then I need to call it out. I can do all that and not be Anti-Semitic or anti Israel.
If any Lemmy instance removes the debate, they need to be left in the cold or closed down.
The problem is, Israeli far-right groups and Zionist advocates have spent decades turning "antisemitic" into a shield. You call out forced displacement, apartheid, collective punishment—all well documented by Amnesty, B'Tselem, and Human Rights Watch—and they call you an antisemite. It's an old trick, and it works.
So when a platform like lemmy.world bans "anti-Zionists," they're buying into that same smear. They're not separating bigotry from basic human rights criticism. That means you literally can't speak out against genocide there without being branded an antisemite. The only way to say "stop the genocide" is to wear that label as a badge of honor. And that's exactly the point: any platform that forces you to accept a false accusation just to state the obvious is complicit.
I completely agree. There was an analogy used at work some years ago. If we decided to call a dogs tail a leg, would that mean that all dogs have five legs? The answer is ridiculously simple. Dogs have four legs and a tail. The names used make no difference. In this case, if Israel is committing genocidal acts, then that is just a straight fact. Renaming objection as anti-Semitic does not take away the fact of the genocide.
That isn't limited to right wing or far right groups. Plenty of liberal Zionists who are still hiding behind the anti semitism claim. I guess admitting that you spent most of your life shilling for apartheid and genocide must be tough.
The term is broken and should never be used by anyone outside of their fascist bubble. Arabs are a semitic people too I would add. If they don't give the exact details of the offense, ignore. And if they do give the details, call it what it is, anti israel, anti zionist, anti fascist, or anti jewish. No country represents a race of people.
It's all in bad faith anyway, it's not about the plausibility of the argument, it's about bullying you, and as such they come hard and fast at the first provokation to dissuade others before an organized resistance can form.
Who gives a shit what they call you, they have no credibility
I don't think people should join censorious instances either, but if you're implying something else like defederation then that's a bridge too far. Interoperability and interconnection are key to federation ever working.
Yup
Is lemmy.world anti-humanity for banning anti-Zionists?
The quick answer is: probably no. You claim this is the case, provide no receipts, and most importantly don't place these terms into enough context. And context matters.
I don't know if you're right. You might be. I'm not excluding that possibility.
No instance is under any obligation to tolerate all opinions. Other admins may defederate, users may move away and block. All moderation decisions are shit. It's much easier to have principles than to apply them equally everywhere and without fail.
If they have indeed chosen to err on the side of what I'm going to call something like antisemitic caution and remove stuff more broadly than you are comfortable with, it's not just a question of values. It's could also be a reflection of their experience with this topic, the resulting workload, and lack of moderation manpower. It's much easier to ban all boobs than having to differentiate with each post if they're breastfeeding or not, to put this in the context of past moderation problems. Facebook isn't opposed to breastfeeding as a function to suckle our offspring but as the proprietors of their platform they can ban all boob related posts. And while this is of course within the realm of apples to oranges comparisons, I don't think it's justified to leap to the conclusion you did based on moderation decisions alone.
The last I've seen was this, but I remember before lemmy.world's admin defederated from an entire instance over one user's "death to all Zionists" display name. That user stepped down. The damage was done.
This was a political act. When a platform punishes critics of documented apartheid and ethnic cleansing more harshly than it punishes the apologists for those crimes, yes—that's anti-humanity in practice. Complicity doesn't require intent, just silence and a ban hammer.
edit: I've found more evidence and posted it here:
Lemmy.world Is Anti‑Humanity. How Its Admins Weaponized Defederation to Silence Palestine Solidarity
Wait, givesomefucks got promoted to mod? I haven't specifically seen pro-Zionist comments from them, but this is the user that regularly comments trying to convince everyone how the Democratic party has seen 'major reforms' by electing a new leader months ago despite us continuing to see them capitulate to Republicans at nearly every turn.
Maybe the account is run by Chuck Schumer and OP here is completely correct.
I got into it with that account too now that you mention it. That person is a tool.
I won't be quite so harsh toward someone who now has the power to ban me, but I will agree that it seriously calls their judgement into question and they remind me a lot of FlyingSquid who also regularly made seriously questionable claims and was eventually demodded.
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I read through that last link and then the first comment is asking why this AI wall of text. There is also very little evidence meat on that bone. A user did this, a user got that. That's not receipts, that's just more claims.
The claims of censorship are non sensical to me. You can still post most of that stuff, just not on that instance. An instance isn't a democracy and no one has the right to be heard there no matter what. Your right is to go elsewhere. It's a living room sofa problem. If you came to my house and took a dump on my sofa, I'd kick you out too. As it is my house, I get to decide what constitutes a dump. You thought it was just a fart, I smelled a shart - you're out anyway. You are free to go sit on somebody else's sofa. Go somewhere else, vote with your feet. Sure, tell others about my tight ass sofa rules. You still haven't convinced me of your OG conclusion.
I'm still not excluding the possibility that there is something rotten in the state of Lemmy dot world. Maybe that admin is indeed on a power trip. What a decade on reddit and now a few years on Lemmy have shown me is that most bans are not shot from the hip. "I just said maybe Israel isn't so nice and got banned IMMEDIATELY," professed the user innocently. And then the admin comes back with three documented community violations including threatening the moderators with violence. Exceptions are rare. If you had a "no violence" rule, then "death to Zionists" would be functionally the same as "death to all little old ladies," a no-go. You don't get to decide what constitutes a dump and since the fediverse is larger than Lemmy dot world you're also not being censored.
Lemmy.world reportedly bans people for being anti-Zionist.
They ban people for posting "Death to all Zionists" and other calls for violence.
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Restricting certain forms of speech can be interpreted in two ways: As suppression of legitimate political critique. Or as boundary-setting to prevent generalizations or escalation.
Whether specific political positions are restricted depends not on how you see them, but on how moderators classify them. “Anti-Zionism” is not a single, defined category. It ranges from policy criticism against Israel, to positions that some moderators may interpret as targeting jews.
Give an explicit, specific example of anti-zionism that can be interpreted as "targeting jews".
First of all, I'd say we're on the same side. Israel is acting like a disgusting piece of shit. Also, many Israelis are abusing the term "antisemitic" to discredit people that they dont like. But I think we still need to differentiate. Therefore let me answer your question:
If the vanalism is against Israeli officials/buildings/state institutions, thats fine! Like ambassies, consulates, (international) representatives, politicians, economic figures, IDF members, etc... They are waging war and genocide, they deserve our anger + protest.
But If it hits religious institutions, private folks, jewish communities, holocaust memorials, etc. with no Israeli state background or links to the IDF, then maybe dont attack them, because otherwise it really is nothing but antisemitism. And that's the point. If it was really only about the state of Israel, then why do so many "protests" explicitly target Jewish religious institutions (like synagogues, cemeteries, schools) rather than Israeli ones? It is not even rare thing to happen, thats why I wonder why you are asking. Examples:
Moldova, Kasauti. A Holocaust memorial was vandalized with 'free Palestine' graffiti.
Ukraine, Uman. A swastika was painted on a Jewish café.
UK, Glasgow. “Free Palestine” and “Fuck the no really Jews” were painted on a wall.
Italy, Milan. A man shouted “murderers” in front of a Jewish nursing home.
Italy, Milan. An elderly Jewish man, wearing a hat with a Star of David, was walking his dog, when a man tore off his hat, trampled it, and called the elderly man “dirty Jew.”
Italy, Milan. An Orthodox Jewish man was insulted on his way to a synagogue by an Italian couple who said to him, “F—king Zionist! You kill children!” On his way home he was shoved by a young man who shouted antisemitic epithets at him.
Germany, Oldenburg. An incendiary device was thrown at the door of the Oldenburg synagogue.
Belgium, Fleron. The home of Belgian Holocaust survivors was vandalized with “Gaza Free” and a swastika.
Munich, Germany. A man stood in front of the main synagogue, shouted antisemitic insults and give Hitler salutes.
Montevideo, Uruguay. A doll depicting a Jewish women with a Star of David and a spear piercing her forehead was displayed during a march for International Women's Day.
Paris, France. A man wearing a kippah was attacked as he left a synagogue.
Babenhausen, Germany. A Jewish memorial column was smeared with paint.
Geneva, Switzerland. “Exterminate the Jews” and “Death to Zionists” graffiti were found in Geneva after a pro-Palestinian rally.
https://newengland.adl.org/resources/article/global-antisemitic-incidents-wake-hamas-war-israel
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2026/02/13/maryland-synagogue-antisemitism-vandalism/
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/san-leandro-high-school-lawsuit-22220489.php
Incredibly bad-faithed from you. I would be extremely disappointed given all your blathering about "quality discourse", but I knew it was not earnest from the beginning. I will ignore the bad-faithed nature of your examples that MidnightPocket already pointed out.
The context of my question was a discussion of whether admins banning anti-zionist speech was anti-human. You replied to this by stating there is anti-zionism that "some moderators may interpret as targeting jews". With no commentary and plenty of equivocation, this implies that that is a reasonable assessment in some circumstances. The context was decidedly NOT any of your examples.
Give an explicit circumstance.
Moldova, Kasauti. A Holocaust memorial was vandalized with 'free Palestine' graffiti.
Potentially your only half-decent example of what was requested by the other user (assuming the act was indeed committed by an anti-zionist).
Ukraine, Uman. A swastika was painted on a Jewish café.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
UK, Glasgow. “Free Palestine” and “Fuck the no really Jews” were painted on a wall.
Honestly, seems like the work of a bad-faith Zionist.
Italy, Milan. A man shouted “murderers” in front of a Jewish nursing home.
For all we know, the nursing home committed malpractice leading to the death of a tenant or something. This story is tantamount to hearsay.
Italy, Milan. An elderly Jewish man, wearing a hat with a Star of David, was walking his dog, when a man tore off his hat, trampled it, and called the elderly man “dirty Jew.”
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Italy, Milan. An Orthodox Jewish man was insulted on his way to a synagogue by an Italian couple who said to him, “F—king Zionist! You kill children!” On his way home...
For all we know, the man was sporting the Israeli flag. This story is tantamount to hearsay.
Germany, Oldenburg. An incendiary device was thrown at the door of the Oldenburg synagogue.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Belgium, Fleron. The home of Belgian Holocaust survivors was vandalized with “Gaza Free” and a swastika.
Honestly, seems like the work of a bad-faith Zionist.
Munich, Germany. A man stood in front of the main synagogue, shouted antisemitic insults and give Hitler salutes.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Montevideo, Uruguay. A doll depicting a Jewish women with a Star of David and a spear piercing her forehead was displayed during a march for International Women's Day.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Paris, France. A man wearing a kippah was attacked as he left a synagogue.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Babenhausen, Germany. A Jewish memorial column was smeared with paint.
What does this have to do with anti-zionism?
Geneva, Switzerland. “Exterminate the Jews” and “Death to Zionists” graffiti were found in Geneva after a pro-Palestinian rally.
Honestly, seems like the work of a bad-faith Zionist.
Additional note: Your framing is somewhat binary, relying on a “if you’re not with me, you’re against me” logic. I understand the emotions that come with this topic, but your logic reduces complex positions to two options despite the existence of intermediate views. Nuanced actors might then be pushed into opposing camps, therefore intensifying conflict.
Edit, for context: Damned be Israel for everything they are doing right now. I am just trying to maintain some discourse quality.
This is just a paradox of tolerance moment
no