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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago

I have been waiting for SEGA to make Persona 5 and SMT 5 DRM-free for many years now. IIRC, Persona 5 Royal was $10 a week ago...but still DRM'ed.

Fuck it. I might as well just pirate these things and not give SEGA a dime. They clearly don't want my money, nor respect my desire to be free of rootkits, restrictions, or surveillance. I just want to buy my games and play. πŸ˜’

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

why do people still play/buy games with Denuvo,it reduces your fps anyways.
maybe Denuvo is as bad as Kernel level anticheat.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Because modern gaming community believes in ultra-consumerism. "Just buy a $3000 PC to run your $70 AAAA games every 3 years like the rest of us."

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget the €8000 gaming chair, and €4000 custom made in-ear headphones.

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

And the EA game pass, so you can pay to own nothing.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 22 hours ago
[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Says console bro who probably wasted $2k+ on a 4K TV. Gaming is a luxury in general if you want anything modern.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Ah you mix up. I am the potato pc bro.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Alright I respect the budget bros. Kinda sad that modern gaming is becoming this huge luxury tbh.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd guess most players aren't even aware. I play a lot of games (though probably none that have this stuff enabled) and before joining Lemmy I'd never even heard of Denuvo. The average user just buys a game and plays it.

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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I certainly hope Denuvo steps on something pointy, but there's no way I'm installing an HV bypass on any machine.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That shit does not run on Linux, so I guess I'm in luck. I bet Denuvo is doubling down and adding kernel level DRM to all games. Bit worried about what that means for Linux gaming, but I will survive. I've been on Linux for like a decade now, I won't install windows to play some silly games.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That shit does not run on Linux

Do you mean Denuvo games in general? Because that's not true

they mean the hypervisor bypass, which at the moment requires windows and turning off basically every security feature

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Playing it on a Windows VM on Linux with your GPU passed through is probably the safest way to play these hypervisor bypass games.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, an OS that runs a HV that runs a HV that runs an OS that runs a translator that translates a windows-game to the original OS.

If you had told me that absurd shit 30yrs ago I would have laughed at you.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and all that to bypass, not remove, a protection mechanism that runs 100% in user space with no additional privileges. It really would be impressive if it wasn't so horrible for consumer rights and preservation.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is...I always trusted pirates more than companies (I was a big player back in the days) but this is way too much. I just don't play these games now (thanks denuvo) and I surely won't play those hv-"cracks".

But...the worse thing is what denuvo will do now. Either they'll vanish or they'll step up by getting absolute total control kernel-side. I'd prefer vanishing. Why would anyone buy denuvo now if they don't react fast...

[–] upandatom@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. I expect some money shifting where Denuvo goes down and another rises with kernel level. Ovuned. Kind of like how airlines and banks rename themselves.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago

Well, let's just hope that we're wrong on this.

I've just about finished moving over from windows now. It's been nice once I got things behaving.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It's the bypass in question that falsifies validation data to the Denuvo DRM. It runs under the OS (Windows in this case), which gives it more permissions than your operating system itself. You have to disable a significant amount of your security, reboot, run your game with the HV bypass, reenable your security, reboot, and then you can use your PC normally again. Even if you trust the HV bypass software (and I don't personally think that's a good idea), you are still opening your machine up to attack. If you are perfect in your actions and very cautious you can minimize the risk, but slipping up could leave your PC compromised. It's just too much risk.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The HV bypass is a blow to both the industry and piracy. All games are easy to pirate now, but aint no way I'm messing with my machine so much just to pirate those games.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Games are already a security nightmare. Apex had an RCE in a game with fucking kernel level anticheat.

Fucking think about that.

If you care about privacy or security you should've started playing games in a VM with pass through years ago.

If it doesn't run in a VM it doesn't get played.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

98% of gamers dont even understand what you saod here

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Huh. I guess they'll play the games now?

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 137 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I have stacks of 1-1.5 tb sd cards in a holder on my steam deck case because I can never delete a game but I don't have time to play them either.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Ugh, if I have to.

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[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I played RE9 recently thanks to voices38 crack.

Even the achievements were working, insane experience for something pirated.

It's not the same convenience of Steam, but you can achieve similar:

  • I used a PowerShell script with rclone + Ludosavi backup to backup all my game saves periodically.
  • Add to Steam as non-Steam game to get controller support, screenshot and recording features.
  • And Hydra launcher (or Achievement Watcher) to save my played hours and get achievements notifications.

Pro: You actually own your data instead of Steam owing it. All tools are open source and you can backup the database files.
Cons: Less convenience.

Already 100% all achievements.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

If you have a server to Self Host stuff, you can also use Gamevault. It's like steam but Selfhost. You can Backup your Save Files onto your Server (you need to modify the Open Source Client for that, otherwise it's behind a Paywall.) It tracks your Playtime. You can install .7zip files, iso's and gog games very simple. You can also see what your friends are playing, if you share your Server.

I also love it to collect fan games in it like PokeMMO, Mario 64 PC Port etc.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also played voices38’s RE9, was great until raccoon city, then performance became unplayable, even on low settings. Quite a shame, I don’t think I can finish it.

For me only the RPD was having massive FPS drops, I was getting 20FPS, but there's no big fight there so it was playable.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

These bypasses work differently and require you to load unsigned drivers.

[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Ik, but RE9 was one of the few games cracked properly. That and Black Myth Wukong today.

Given the rate voices38 is doing it, I dare to say he's cracking all the rest, he probably figured out something at this point, just need to reapply the same skills on different Denuvo games.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Playing a game for free is not even remotely worth allowing a bypass to have absolute root access, but maybe this will make companies reconsider whether it's worth paying for Denuvo. Probably not.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it better or worse than letting the game have absolute root access? Because that'll no doubt be what Denuvo goes with next...

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