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So now that the USA Navy is deploying underwater F/A-18 Super Hornet Battle Combat Ace Knight Super-D/X Series Mega Jets, how should we expect the situation in the Red Sea / Yemen conflict to develop? I understand that this is a situational deployment and usually planes like air, but obviously this is strategic. With the enemy deploying tactics like visiting their girlfriends at civilian apartments where they live, can we expect a water-to-civilian-land combat solution on the horizon?

edit* I am specifically requesting a War Thunder leak thanks

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Ever since the ocean was invented, naval combat vessels have focused on staying above the water. While some may claim this excludes submarines, this in fact accounts for the fact a submarine is not a naval combat vessel, it is a torpedo-storage container full of gay men.

However, recent trends in russian naval tactics have seen their black sea fleet deploying under the ocean, using its depths to hide like the fragile and majestic octopus. Deep ocean ship deployments have been increasing over the parts few years, and offer a benefit of excellent cover, stable positioning, and - bonus - resupply needs greatly reduce as well.

Naval aviators tend to hate the ocean, because it is not the air, but as navies redeploy their fleets underwater (there are rumors india and pakistan may soon experiment with this technology), the only answer is deploy air assets to watch them.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I thought this was ncd shitpost

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

"Well... It's a ~~spaceship~~ plane so I'd say anywhere between 0 and 1."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Guys. It's been a challenging day, and this entire thread has improved the day immensely. I've built a shit ton of character today but you are the true characters.

Downvote this so it goes to the bottom but I just wanna say thanks for being you.

[–] death@infosec.pub 47 points 1 day ago

In this mode the aircraft has superior protection from all modern anti-air weapon systems.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The sunken jets cause a hazard to fishing trawlers, ensnaring their nets and disrupting their catch, thereby putting economic pressure on the adversary and creating food insecurity among enemy pescatarians. This is the peak of hybrid warfare.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is more planes undersea than submarine in the air.

Technically speaking, the physics of control surface is the same underwater, so it should work not that bad, just replace the reactor by a ship prop and let's sea

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are also more aircraft underwater than submarines.

Also, you'd need to replace the radar with a sonar.

[–] GargledBalls@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But then how will they get their movies?

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

the physics of control surface is the same underwater

That's because air is actually a fluid

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I see a lot of people are missing the big picture of this new weapon system, so let me explain it. My brother works for a large defense contractor that shall remain nameless, but rhymes with "paytheon". Yes, the US Navy has plenty of underwater attack systems, we invented submarines more than 150 years ago. But F-18's underwater attack capabilities? Why is God's name would you need that?

Well, this new system can use a classified weapon that some people call a "shredder". It is actually the RAZERTAM (Rapid Attack Zero Emission Terrorist Attack Munition). It had its first test back in 2012 near Hawaii. The test didn't go well and at least one Arleigh Burke destroyer was sunk, a softball game was attacked and many people were killed. The entire event was covered up, and blamed on a "typhoon". The munitions use a fusion core generator to spin steel cutting blades behind a static energy field. There is no known way to stop them. The real breakthrough recently was the AI software provided by Elon Musk and Steven Miller ( who are high level government officials). The system is able to identify terrorists and attack them, based entirely on visual recognition. Some people opposed this and called it racist, but it is actually protecting America and neither of these guys have a racist bone in their body.

The F/A-18 Super Water Hornet is the perfect platform to deliver the Razertam munitions. It can submerge and "hop" to individual points in the water. This avoids anything getting a lock on them, so they can close in on terrorist housing centers, fuel stations and so-called schools that are actually terrorist youth training centers. I don't think even a battleship can stop these things from completing their mission to cleanse the earth of terrorists.

I have included a classified photo of the test munition attacking the John Paul Jones US Navy Destroyer.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Canrith6696@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The US invented the submarine? 😅

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Well, you have to add the phrase "for warfare" or "armed" to most US inventions. We don't see the utility in things, unless they can be made lethal. In context, I meant combat Submarines, as in the CSS Hunley from the American civil war. But you are correct that it was a dutch guy who built the first submarine.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The first "real submarine" (I'm considering a "real sub" to be able to operate self sufficiently) was actually made by an American. David Bushnell in 1776. And the first submarine to directly sink another war ship was also built by ~~cowards~~ Americans (Confederate) during the US Civil War.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Plane not fly in water, plane fly in air.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tell that to the Navy lol

I give them an A for effort though.

I feel it necessary to point out that the Navy does water warfare. Maybe they think these are the new boats?

[–] VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they seem pretty sure @libra00@lemmy.world so let's please stick to the topic

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are you replying to someone else and pinging me? I'm just making a silly joke over here.

[–] VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

your reply to my useless reply spooked me so badly i dropped my F/A-18 Super Hornet into the ocean so i hope you're happy pal

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Positively giddy. :)

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To the best of my knowledge the navy has never flown a plane underwater. If I'm wrong about that then please do enlighten me, I'd love to read that shit.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Congress dislikes fun things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_Submersible_Seaplane

The Convair Submersible Seaplane (or "Subplane") was a United States Navy project to produce a seaplane which could travel underwater as well as fly.

Convair made detailed designs and built scale models which were tested, and averred that the craft would work, but the project did not get beyond that stage and was cancelled by Congress in 1965[2] or 1966.[1][3]

1000009181

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Navy cooked up all sorts of whack-a-doodle ideas that didn't have a chance in hell of being feasible, much less useful, but that's definitely the silliest I've seen in a while.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They weren't the only ones back then by a long shot.

Army: Chrysler TV-8 Nuclear-Powered Tank

Air Force: The McDonnell XF-85 “Goblin”

Marines: The Marine Corps’ Ultra Heavy-Lift Amphibious Connector (UHAC)

There are weirder ones but I think these are definitely up there.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Oh no doubt, everybody had some kooky ideas.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think you missed my obvious joke.

About this

The original post was also referring to this event

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ohhh, shit, my bad. I hadn't seen that.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

LOL no problem

[–] HKPiax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

WRONG

Air is a liquid, water is liquid, so you can fly a plane in the water are you stupid?

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You're right, relative density and the chemical composition necessary to oxidize fuel combustion definitely are irrelevant, thanks for reminding me!

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Air behaves like a liquid... air is a gas.

Maybe this was a joke, but I'm unfortunately now required to ask whether you're stupid.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Air behaves like a fluid. "Fluid" doesn't necessarily mean "liquid"

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

And the comment replied to specifically claimed air to be liquid, which it is not at typical temperatures and pressures.

Oh my god. It's fucking 1:37am and I'm absolutely losing it over this, Well done Op.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you happen to have just watched the How to Steal an F-18 Hornet by that coquette girl?

[–] VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIw0YgCu2E1/

no but then i searched your terms and i was very happy, link for everyone else 🥰

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get that it's a bit

But Jesus Christ that's the kind of good crazy I want in a partner

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Isn't she a sweetheart?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Lmao, I did not know se came from Instagram. Thanks for that!

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Did you play the old tactical game "xcom -terror from the depth" ?

Alien might be sleeping undersea and will rise up someday.

We need interceptor that can fight underwater.

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago

Sturdy as a Stockton submersible.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

::Laughs in Rising sun sea-wing::

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m so pleased that this keeps happening. Fuck these planes and assholes that fly them and the government that deploys them. Bleed this rotting hump of a nation out, one ridiculously overpriced weapon at a time. As an American, I’m just done being even remotely patriotic at this point.