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French activists staged a funeral for Windows 10 to protest Microsoft’s push toward Windows 11 and planned obsolescence.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

... but when MSFT employees hold their own protest, in their place of work, against MSFT software being used to murder Palestinians, some months before this, they get arrested.

https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-azure-gaza-israel-protests-49a0dd5905a1cf16eb3e19a98ca17d50

They got arrested of course because precious, precious property was mildly inconvenienced, and the cops made up lies about them.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago

What a weird thing to protest this way... How about just installing Linux?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Microsoft Windows was never a good operating system. Oh sure, it had its moments, but I don't remember ever being not frustrated by certain elements in Windows.

Leaving Windows shouldn't be a funeral, but a sick ass celebration like after blowing up the Death Star.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let's not pretend Windows 10 was any good either.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago

This right here. People tend to forget how controversial 10 was when introduced, and romanticise it after the fact. Case in point: Win 10's antifeatures alone - built-in keylogger, mandatory telemetry, "upgrade" nag screens with tons of dark patterns - all that convinced me to finally make the switch to Linux before Win 7 EOL'd in 2020.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Windows XP was really the last decent version.

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

7 was also good, the oldest windows with a UI that still feels usable today.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

I still run a PC on 7. Its fun to see that everything still works.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Installed it this week on an old PC. It really is unusable at this point.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So only marginally worse than Windows 11, then, and with such impressively low system requirements!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago

Also less spying. So maybe about on par with 11?

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Indeed, but unlike 11 it was still more OS than a bloated slop generator.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I grieved when I bought a used laptop with Windows pre-installed. I immediately performed a ritual of Debian purification.

Windows, or any other corporate MICROS~1 product dying is a cause for celebration.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I bought a NAS, and it had windows installed. Why?

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It comes with a copy of Internet Explorer, and a copy of MS-DOS.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

Only for a minute, now it comes with a good serving of TrueNAS

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm old enough to understand this reference.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

He got that off his XP machine he was talking about! 😂

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m not quite sure how people use Debian on a desktop machine. Do you not fall asleep while you’re using it?

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The interesting part of using my computer shouldn't be my OS, but the software I use on it.

[–] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

That's what Mint is for. It just gets out of my fucking way. Most of the time I'm not aware that I have an OS.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] albbi@piefed.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Every single morning!

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I'm not falling asleep, my laptop is falling asleep.

The problem is that it never wakes up. The solution is to disable every low-power option in system settings, and pretend that my laptop is very critical server, because Debian is made for servers.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had to install edge on my steam deck to be able to play 1 game. I cursed the machine spirit

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I... but...

Did the system requirements screen at least warn you that you need wholly unrelated 3rd party software for it? Its like if I was trying to load up QuickBooks and it was like "Please insert slice of aged cheddar into drive A: to proceed."

I realize its not a perfect analogy-- lots of people like aged cheddar.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

They made it so you have to open a browser to log in your account and not the launcher, only edge worked 😑

[–] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

That site is cancer.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Standard Windows is fully enshittified, but Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is free, supported until 2032, relatively debloated, and won’t randomly encrypt your hard drive.

Of course, you can always try out Linux.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait.

You need no license???

[–] Codilingus@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago

Massgrave.dev is your friend for that.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can obtain a license by running the activation script after Windows installation, including a permanent hardware license if desired. The easiest way is to use PowerShell and select the HWID option:

irm https://get.activated.win/ | iex

Technically this registers your hardware and key with the MS activation server, but you never have to worry about it again.

If you use Rufus to write the ISO to a bootable USB drive, it has options for disabling the user-level telemetry and MS account requirement.

Been running it for years with no issue.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Rufus is cool. If you want to customize the install more, including slipstreaming drivers and updates, there is also NTLite. Back in the day we used it to add the Intel hard drive drivers to XP installers to downgrade Vista machines.

[–] ell1e@leminal.space 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The "archaic devices" framing of the article seems questionable to me. I don't think a device from around 9 years ago (Ryzen Gen 1) is archaic. While these are going to be low end now they often are still perfectly usable if they were somewhat higher end at the time. They don't lack anything a modern system should need, which is easily proven by Linux running on them just fine.

[–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

My PC is only like, 5 years old and Windows 11 doesn't support it. Windows 10 ran smoothly, it does RTX, modern games run fine on it, the most graphically intensive AAA games run a little poorly but still run nonetheless, and I can always lower the graphics settings to get better performance. It's certainly more powerful and higher spec than a lot of the office PCs that do run Windows 11. Buuuut the motherboard doesn't have a TPM 2.0 chip so it's archaic e-waste as far as Microsoft is concerned. It's been running Linux just fine for the last year and a half or so, and not once have I ever felt that my PC is too old and needs to be upgraded or replaced.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I agree. I probably would've disagreed 15 years ago - 2001 hardware would've felt archaic by 2010.

Hardware made 10 years ago is, for the average person, likely good enough to get them through another decade, if the accompanying software was kept lean. But that kinda thinking doesn't help bank accounts swell, does it..

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How does an "archaic" high-end Ryzen computer compare to your average Windows 11 enabled $400 Walmart computer today?


Update

Compatible: Trash Walmart best-seller in 500 carts

HP 14 inch HD Windows Laptop
2-Core AMD Athlon 7120
4GB RAM
128GB SSD

Incompatible: Dell XPS 13 (late 2017)

1.8GHz Intel Core i7-8550U
8GB DDR4 SDRAM 1,866MHz
256GB PCIe SSD

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago

For what it's worth, I have a system with first-gen Zen cores (Threadripper 1900X). 8 cores at 3.8GHz. Not too shabby even now. It's just got a higher power draw than the newer chips. Got a fairly decent price on it on Black Friday of 2017. (Never ran Windows on it, though.)

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My desktop which is running a i7-6700k from 2015 out performs all of the <$400 laptops that I could find on every metric and had higher multi core but lower single core for the $400-$600 range. I was unable to find a desktop that was <$800 that was better, so I would surmize that the desktop market won't have a meaningful price/performance % in comparison to the laptops. At the very least with the insanity of graphics & memory prices at the moment, the budget systems are getting smoked by a desktop from 2015, even while purposefully omitting the 2070 I have because that was a newer addition and pretty much all of the systems are running poor quality integrated graphics anyway.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

should have just all dressed in penguin suits, buried the coffin, stood around the grave and then pissed in it.

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I figured it was because the government was dropping Windows that they were mock grieving.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Kinda reminds me of when KFC Canada had a funeral for their French Fries, but that was purely marketing.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That is awesome hail France!