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Steam competitors be like. [Extended?] (thelemmy.club)

submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by Mwa@thelemmy.club to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to ask "are other companies bad?" when trying to determine if a company is a monopoly. One thought experiment I like to do is pretend the CEO dies and is replaced by Satan. How much damage could he do? If it's a lot, then probably you've got a monopoly.

Suppose Gaben dies, and he's replaced by Satan. Could he do damage to the gaming community by doing something exorbitant, like charging a 30% cut of game sales from the folks who actually develop the games? Could they do anticompetitive vendor lock stuff like only allowing you to purchase DLC through steam? Only time will tell. And it will, because at some point Gaben will die, and he will be replaced by someone less magnanimous and angelic than him.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 minutes ago

That also makes no sense. Literally any large company could do great deals of harm even if they have countless competitors if they set out for the goal of just doing harm.

There is a serious fundamental difference between a monopoly and a general market preference.

If every single one of your competitors all decide to be stupid and you don't you arnt a monopoly. You just are the only one not being stupid.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago

Tbf they already take a 30% cut, I dont have a huge issue with it though.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

They don't allow ads in games. Support Steam.

[–] Beethedude@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What are all those blue & white squares on the top right? I recognize every other logo, but I have no clue what that's supposed to be.

[–] stewarpt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Roblox

[–] Beethedude@sopuli.xyz 2 points 52 minutes ago

Ah, gotcha. Heard of it, never seen it.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

hey its me again to shit all over your post, so its not a shitpost when you actually mean the shit you're trying to convey.

Yours truly

[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Both Sony and Nintendo have been consistently posting record revenue numbers in the past few years. Neither are that far off Valve.

Regardless, this whole Steam circlejerk reminds me of the early days of Android, when people still believed that Google wasn’t “evil”. Let’s hope I’m in the wrong here.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

In fairness Google was just becoming evil at that point. It was a fantastic company when the founders ran it.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 minutes ago

Fundamentally you can't compare a private and public company. Private companies have a legal requirement that drives them towards becoming shitty for the consumer. While a private company isn't.

Steam is literally a mom and pop shop. A huge one but it is. They have no legal pressure to enshitify they have no legal requirement to put money and share holders before customers cause they have no shareholders.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

Google isn't privately owned. It's hard to be on the stock market and not be evil. I think Costco is the only one that has managed it for any appreciable length and that is under threat of death from one of the co-founders.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I didn't realize we were still in the early days of a platform that launched in 2003.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's not being a monopoly that is illegal — if it were then all of "big tech" would be screwed. It's using a monopoly toward anti-competitive ends and enshittifying everything that is illegal...which is funny, because even that really doesn't seem to be illegal when you look around these days.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

The law only matters if it's actually enforced.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 68 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (7 children)

I mean, yes.

Steam is a scary monopoly, getting scarier.
It's not their fault the industry (minus GOG) comitted mass seppuku.

Both can be true. One can worry about Valve, and use them hesitantly, while laughing at everything else like it's a cartoon.

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

How is steam a monopoly if they don't even own the biggest platform they sell games to? And even steam os being Linux has to be fully open to comply with the gpl meaning anyone can modify and install whatever they want.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

It ain't a public company. Nothing scary about it.

People don't change in a dime when you get to gabens age. You tend to become stubborn and set in your ways.

What's scary is what the guy after gaben will do. But so long as gaben is around and the company is private we are fine.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't classify it as "scary" quite yet.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Our benevolent yachtlord for life won't live forever. Next guy (or group of owners) may not be quite content with simply having a billion dollar yacht, might enshittify for more yachts quicker.

Point being, GabeN is no saint, but he shows restraint with his greed, if you can even call him greedy. Next guy might kill the golden goose and then we'll all have a fun time because all our games are all on Steam. That's the scary bit.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I would still wait until we know who the heir apparent is to worry.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

I feel like a peasant waiting to find out if the good old king's son is gonna ruin everything.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

Good news is his kids appear to be level headed like him.

As they say wealth never lasts past the third generation. Gaben built it up, his kids understand their father and keep it going. The grandkids are spoiled and don't get it and run it into the ground.

So we got time.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

itch.io seems rather unproblematic

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

Except for you know the whole it actually is a huge f****** mess.

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 2 hours ago

The payment processor thing was a mess, and they really went through and mass delisted a ton of things that did not meet the criteria, including a lot of SFW stuff.

The fact that they complied so readily, and overreacted so much, makes them pretty sus to me.

They used to be right below GOG for me, and I suppose they still are, but I trust them about as much as I trust Valve to not randomly delist things because some Karen in Australia whined.

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