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Both Sony and Nintendo have been consistently posting record revenue numbers in the past few years. Neither are that far off Valve.
Regardless, this whole Steam circlejerk reminds me of the early days of Android, when people still believed that Google wasn’t “evil”. Let’s hope I’m in the wrong here.
I mean, yes.
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Steam is a scary monopoly, getting scarier.
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It's not their fault the industry (minus GOG) comitted mass seppuku.
Both can be true. One can worry about Valve, and use them hesitantly, while laughing at everything else like it's a cartoon.
agreed, i still dislike GOG'S AI take.
No shit. It kills me when people play on console. I mean I get the simplicity and all, but they try to use the "it's cheaper" angle and yeah, bullshit. It's initially cheaper, then you're paying what $20 a month to just play online, then games are $10 off at most on their respective stores and then you get to rebuy them when a new console comes out.
Steam games are like 50%-90% off constantly, and Epic has free games like every week. I've had games for over 15 years through steam. So yeah I paid $1,000 for my PC but after 3 years console owners have spent $1,500+ after monthly fees and buying games.
I paid $1,000 for my PC
What year was this?
Competition actually exists, GOG, Epic, itch.io. More used to exist but they were shitty, inferior products and died out because of that. Steam grew up to being the standard it is now and we come to expect it. It'd take same or better to unseat them.
Valve is truly one of a kind company, their marketing has been so effective that they managed to create a culture of idiots that go around the internet defending their products
their marketing
Their what?
They just released Half-Life 2 in 2004 and that was it.
Sounds like you have no idea what the company even does.
Has valve even done any form of marketing or advertisement outside their store?
As far as I'm aware they are just really good at keeping their mouths shut.
Marketing isn't just buying television ads. Loot boxes and reward systems are also a form of marketing.
i guess yeah if by "reward system" you mean they run steam pretty well
A game mechanic is marketing?
For profit companies who's goal is to make money also use game mechanics for marketing, yes.
I remember being absolutely fucking pissed when I bought Skyrim and got a steam key instead of an actual download.
I remember there being more concern about being forced to use a platform to install/play your games back in the late naughts/early 2010s.
Back then valve wasn't probably doing as much advertising
After hearing his connection to Musk I am starting to wonder. All is not what it seems.
There's no such thing as a good billionaire. Some are less bad than others, but none are good.
I can get wanting to have enough money to live comfortably. But that line is crossed way before the "billionaire" mark.
They have more money than they could ever hope to spend in 10 lifetimes. So it is a conscious decision they make, to say "Instead of putting everything I don't need to a good cause, I'm going to hoard it and buy a few more yachts instead."
Steam is a shitty business. They run a gambling scheme for children, they take a huge cut from devs (blabla industry standard blablabla), they make billions and basically employ less people than an indie studio. The fact that so many gamers would take a bullet to protect this billionaire dude is beyond me. Of course the guy is super right wing, you don't run that type of business without being.