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Most noteworthy for me is the fact that more Americans think that porn (52%) and homosexuality (39%) are wrong than spanking children (23%) and being ultra wealthy (18%).

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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2026/03/19/what-do-americans-consider-immoral/

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People will just say whatever they think their peers want to hear. What people say doesn't tell you what they think or do.

Definitely more than 50% of people watch porn, despite this. A significant % of 'homosexuality is immoral' types have grindr accounts. Many women who say abortions are wrong also say their case was special and unique which makes it okay. That using marijuana one would definitely be higher before it become widely legal. Gambling too would've had more disapproval before private gambling rings were allowed to advertise at sport games.

These stats reflect public policy, rather than guide it (to a large extent) is my point.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The morality of consuming marijuana is proportional to its legality though.

I will say that it's highly immoral to consume marijuana of unknown source, or sourced from a drug cartel that assassinates people that get in their way of delivering marihuana to you.

But if the source of marijuana is just some tax paying dude that grows marijuana legally like you would any other crop, I don't see any moral issue.

At most you could argue "the resources to grow it could be spent on food", but that is true for literally every form of entertainment. And "but it is unhealthy, and then we all have to pay for your poor health choices", which is actually fair. But way more moral than the drug-cartel sourced one.

For alcohol is different though, since it directly causes antisocial behavior on the consumer. Consuming alcohol is as immoral as whatever immoral acts you do while drunk.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

drug cartel that assassinates people that get in their way of delivering marihuana to you.

I don't think that was the reality of pre-legal weed, at least not much, at least here on the west coast. Most people i knew bought directly from harmless small scale operations or from someone who did. A lot of people worked chopping during harvest and got paid in weed.

Also i think large scale legal farms are much shadier and many have more connections to organized crime than you're considering.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Even if you the operators don't assassinate anyone, running illegal businesses will 99% of the time have other immoral side-effects. It's hard to keep an illegal business running while being 100% morally right.

If a farm has connections to organized crime, it's not growing it like any other crop.

I know people that grow normal crops, none of them have connections to organized crime.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know there’s some clowns out there who think it’s morally wrong as in “sinful” but I do wonder if some of those were people worried about the murkiness of whether exploitation was involved in the making of some films.

I’m not against porn but I have heard the above argument, and those folks would be okay with, say, literotica and independent sex workers.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

None of this surprises me. Some of this is probably a uniquely American perspective with shitty American priorities (marijuana, death penalty).

But, without any other data from any other country there isn't any quantifiable context. This gets a good beat on America the nation, from one american to another..... but there's no clue about what priorites here are uniquely American vs just modern society/culture. There's literally no data being presented here to make that comparison. Like, poll a middle east country, and many will say it's immoral to be gay, way more immoral to watch porn. Poll India, and it'll be immoral to eat meat. Poll the UK, they probably have the same opinions on spankings, being rich....

Different countries have different, and arguably equally, stupid/fuckedup priorities. In that vein, anyone looking at this and going "omg, Americans are so dumb" is pretty fucking dumb. For all you know, your modern western country might have the exact same priorites, and be just be just as fucked up. There's no evidence here that proves/disproves that. So stay off the high horse.

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[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can't get the American population to think "being rich" is morally wrong when even the language of the question doesn't even correctly define how that wealth was obtained.

An educated population would understand class conflict. But, even "being rich" is a horrible survey question. Yeah, you can't say "being bourgeoise" or "capitalist exploitation". But the survey at the very least should ask "being a billionaire". If the question was asked that way the results would definitely shift by at least 10% or more.

It also leans into the false premise that class consciousness is about hating "rich" people. It's not. Socialism isn't a poverty cult. It's about criticizing the exploitative systems that allow billionaires to exist. To critize the class structures.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

8% of people think contraception is morally wrong?!

Yikes - that's practically 1 in 12 people.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I somehow read this for a second as "whether viewing pornography of having an abortion is morally wrong" and felt like I'd fallen into a different reality.

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Eating a meal is morally wrong!?

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some of these are "it depends". for example, using drugs like marijuana, alcohol, or participating in gambling isn't a moral issue by itself, but the industry that advertises and facilitates it is.

also, porn can be unethically or ethically sourced, so there I would hesitate between "not a moral issue" and "morally wrong"

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

According to this approach, I am a troubled individual. Not for the reasons one may think, more so the reasons that we don’t think the the way they do is proof enough that I am on the proper path. “Bring it, I think I know what U got, Gon’ finna find out what it is!”

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And somewhere way down at the merianas trench is trump trafficking and raping 13yos

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm surprised by euthenasia, but also sad it's still that much frowned upon.

Perhaps people like people suffering for their own desire to keep them around.

Actually, looking at all responses, a lot of this moral compass points heavily toward favouring the suffering of others.

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