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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 39 points 6 days ago

This makes me uncontrollably angry. You just don't kill trees without a good reason, and this is a horrible reason! Absolutely disgusting

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ah yes, the fabled "efficiency" of capitalism at work.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago

That should be a crime.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

Be like the airlines. Another company just comes in and uses the existing peaches.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Can't peaches be used to make alcohol? Is closing of canning plants with captive supply based on US immigration policies?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

we have a loquat tree growing from old house they produce fruit quite prodigiously from time to time, and bees seem to love the flowers. 30+year. i think it was from a cutting, asian people love loquats.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 115 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

--John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read it for the first time recently and honestly no other book has ever had such a profound effect on me.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you look at the state of the economy before the Great Depression, it's mirrored today. Just replace Hoover with Trump.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Eh, no. It's bad, sure, but we're a long way from the state of the economy right before the Great Depression. Here's an example:

Unemployment peaked around 25% in 1933. The worst of COVID was 14.8% in April 2020.

Housing. The cost of living. Underemployment. Unemployment. Gig work. It all sucks ass right now, but it sucked MUCH harder 100 years ago.

The answer today is the same as back then. Vote better.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 6 points 6 days ago

In the 1930s the Labor force participation rate was almost 20% higher (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/lfp/US-Workforce-Since-1920). Then you factor in the underemployment and gig work you mentioned as well as how inflation has been a lie since the 1990s, and I'm not sure things sucked "MUCH" harder in economic terms. We do have better toys thanks to 80 years of NSF and other government funded science, but we're ending that now too.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

One thing the author got wrong, that the coroners have must fill in starvation. It's not like that at all, coroners are shady as shit, in league with authorities, and have been sued by powerful interests, personally, for accurately including them in the cause of death. Like that taser company that now sells body cameras as well but not at all limited to them. John Oliver did a piece of this too.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

We didn't learn shit during the first Great Depression. We won't learn shit this time either.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 81 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Millions of peaches, peaches for me,
Millions of peaches, peaches for free.

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[–] corvi@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From the article, it seems like they just have no way to process them. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t see any sort of obligation to destroy these trees, they just need the farmland back to grow something they can actually sell.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The plant is still there and can process them but the demand has evaporated. The reason: Del Monte was fucking stupid.

Peaches are climacteric. When they ripen they naturally produce the plant hormone ethylene. This triggers a complex ripening process where aromas and volatiles are produced (aka flavor). It also causes rapid softening of the fruit and makes canning them much more difficult.

So what are clingstone peaches. These are peach varieties that have been selected for the down regulation of ethylene production and response. They are hard, sweet, but mostly flavorless, and do not separate from the seed (stone). They ship and process well because of their firmness but taste like shit.

So Del Monte produced good looking but shitty tasting product (extra tin can flavor) and the demand dried up over the years.

Why? Did this happen and why did they go bankrupt? They were allowed to become a regional monopoly.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So all of these trees are clingstone peaches and worthless for consumers?

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Well consumers can eat them fresh, but they don't taste that good. They are slightly sweet with very firm flesh and that's about it. There's pretty much no peach flavor and often bitter flavors when you get close to the pit.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Out west especially they have warehouses where they replace all the oxygen with co2 and or nitrogen or whatever, to prevent that ethylene from causing ripening. The result is fruit never goes on sale in those places.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

These types of buildings are used mostly for storing apples. They remove the O2 so that molds and fungi stop growing. It's not really to stop ethylene production which apples do not produce. Apples are harvested in August to October then stored and shipped year round. If you go to the store right now the apples you are getting are around 9 months old.

If they don't sell all of the apples before the next years crop, they dump them to diaries and feedlots.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

North America is so fucked with these horrible monocultures, it's simply ridiculous.

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[–] plz1@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why they not only preferred the "heavy" syrup (aka sugar water, aka simple syrup) vs. natural jiuce. And worse, they started adding cherry extract to that, likely to add flavor to their flavorless peaches.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Cherry extract" no doubt. I've worked in cherry processing and it's a crime against nature, they took perfectly good cherries and dumped them in vats with heavy syrup and swished them for hours, dried the cherries that now were empty husks filled with corn syrup and sugar, and presumably used the liquid from the vats as cherry extract, juice cocktails, and the like.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I don't even like cherries and that upsets me.

[–] plz1@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

So gross. I have a cherry tree I planted about 7 years ago from a selling. Hoping this is finally its year to shine. It finally flowered enough to be.

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[–] VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online 49 points 1 week ago (13 children)
[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obviously the government had already ensured the food security of all of those in need first

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