The US and / or Russia would obtain it ASAP, by hook or crook. Followed rapidly by World War 3
this post was submitted on 11 May 2025
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It's a bit of an oxymoron. A deterrent is about discouraging your opponent from doing something, not preventing them. So kind of by definition it can't be fool proof.
Does anyone actually want to answer the question?
Edit:
If we are just parsing language, here is my meaning:
prevent the violent force
It would just be another system they could sell to other countries. That's it.
They already have - having Nukes.
sigh
Nm
Turns out, having a bunch of nukes is a pretty foolproof deterrent
US and Russia used to have a treaty against either country developing anti-ballistic missiles. The idea was that if 1 party trusted their ABMs too much, they would no longer care about a counter attack, and that would undermine the MAD doctrine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ballistic_Missile_Treaty
So... you're talking about playing by the rules I'm talking about something different.
They're talking about a treaty designed to prevent the result of the exact situation you're asking about. Extrapolating a step gives you at least one answer to your question.
Is a treaty really a technology? Seems like a stretch.
core if your question was about the outcome that such technology would have. The reasoning behind the treaty explains that outcome.
You’ll benefit from working on being a more receptive to new information
No, the response would have been, "nothing" if you truly believe MAD would survive the creation of this hypothetical technology.
The treaty isn’t the technology, it’s the result of people much better informed on the topic considering the scenario you are asking about.
The technology is the hypothetical anti-ballistic missiles.
That's foolproof?
The point of bringing up the treaty is just to point out that the result of the situation you are describing was so scary that for about 30 years the 2 biggest nuclear powers agreed not to do it. That is all to say that one answer to your question is " US and Russia pretty much saw your scenario resulting in inevitable full scale nuclear war"
I’d say treaties are indeed a technology; they’re frameworks / systems that arose around the time commerce was invented. Since technology is purely the application of knowledge to achieve goals, while they may be somewhat intangible, so is software which I think most would agree is technology.
How does confidence factor into this? I've been confident in stuff before and it turned out that confidence was misplaced. Pride cometh before the fall shit. Confidence alone risks cockiness. Cockiness may lead to somebody testing your Golden Shield. Didn't work. You now don't have a country any more.
If the Golden Shield really worked it's a question of capacity. If you had enough juice in it to repel all nuclear weapons you could throw at this country in a worst-case scenario, you'd have a powerful defense against the most powerful weapon on Earth that's ready to deploy this minute. It may not save you from conventional attacks. It may not shield you from chemical or biological weapons so gruesome they aren't currently shelf-ready. But development of those would suddenly become a viable prospect. I fear it just turns the spiral of development of more destructive weaponry one more rotation. Extrapolating from the last 6000 years of history, we've gone from sticks and stones to vaporizing people into thin mist by harnessing the power of the atom. We're already in the narrow bit of the spiral. Paradoxically, developing a Golden Shield against nuclear attacks may lead to wiping our species out for good.
I think the US has already achieved it and aren’t saying anything.
Think how much money they’ve poured in there over the decades, as much as the rest of the world combined.
They were working on directed energy weapons in the 80s to neutralise them from space, but the tech was ‘decades away’. They had a working pilot way back in 2000 too.
The problem is that with the MAD doctrine, it's not about neutrajazing a warning shot where a tactical nuke would neutralise an aircraft carrier fleet or an tank division. It's about dozens if not hundred of nuke flying to your country.
Even 80% efficiency in the counter measure would mean remove 10 of the 50 big cities from the map. This has drastic consequences for a country. Especially in a hyper connected, advanced industry society
They definitely have not. Not publicizing a fool proof nuclear counter-measure defeats the purpose of achieving it in the first place.
You'd MUCH rather your opponent know a nuke strike is pointless, rather than they try and later be surprised that only one lucky one got through.
It depends on the reliability.
If you announce it, there are often counter measures to the counter measures. Once the enemy knows, the reliability begins to degrade. E.g. mirror finishes can disperse laser strikes, jinking can doge orbital rail guns, or dummy submunitions can overwhelm interceptor shields. Yes, these can be countered in turn, but you now have a new technological arms race.
There's also the first strike problem. If you are going to be invulnerable, then a first strike might be reasonable, before the system comes online. This was actually part of the reason the "Slam" project was stopped (a viable, but utterly batshit insane weapon system). They were worried that if the USSR got wind of it, they might decide a first strike, before it came online, was the only reasonable response.
Arguably, you don't tell them, and they don't try to steal the idea, or try to sabotage it, or decide to build was plans that don't depends on a successful nuclear strike.
and they don't try to steal the idea
I heard that everyone basically built nukes really fast because they suddenly discovered it was possible. The theory was pretty common among scientists but only when the first one was built they all got to work.
I seem to recall reading that a German scientist did the experiment that lead directly to the atom bomb before we did our in the US, but that he misinterpreted the results, and tossed the whole line of research.
One of the biggest challenges when creating something new is in not knowing whether or not it's possible. Once you know, you can just keep pouring resources into it and know with near certainty that you'll eventually hit your goal. Since the US already has so many other tools for avoiding a nuclear strike, there's no reason to publicise a new one. Keep it for when the other tools fail, or else everyone else will also have it and you lose your advantage before you could use it.
Not publicizing a fool proof nuclear counter-measure defeats the purpose of achieving it in the first place.
yeah but if they don't tell anyone they can keep it secret and other countries wouldn't try to make their own
Spies are still a thing. Security by obfuscation only works when nobody is looking specifically at you.
Not if the technology is relatively unknown. I mean, maybe if you were alturistic.
Ok, how do you feel about elon musk (and subsequently russia) gaining access to some of our most classified data.
We already have it, they're called nuclear bombs, and MAD.
How is that fool proof?
“The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.”
― Carl Sagan
It is proof that humans are fools
Hasn't failed yet (yes I know that's the survivorship bias fallacy)