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    foss nerds stop being condescending to those who don't know the same things you do challenge (impossible) (files.catbox.moe)
    submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    alt textAn edit of xkcd 2501, "Average Familiarity":
    [Ponytail and Cueball are talking. Ponytail has her hand raised, palm up, towards Cueball.]
    Ponytail: Open-source alternatives are second nature to us foss nerds, so it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows Linux and one or two degoogled Android ROMs.
    Cueball: And Firefox, of course.
    Ponytail: Of course.

    [Caption below the panel]
    Even when they're trying to compensate for it, experts in anything wildly overestimate the average person's familiarity with their field.

    partly inspired by the replies to this post but i see this kind of thing all the time (shoutout to the person who once genuinely asked "who still uses google these days?")

    made with this neat tool

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    [–] TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Actually most firefox users don't know its open source. I was baffled for years about its inclusion in ubuntu and fedora by default. I even specifically went out of my way to find "open source version of firefox". This is how I discovered it was open source. This was after using gentoo for several years.

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    [–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Happens all the time. Also, nerds tend to overestimate the amount of resources, like time or money, someone would put on something they care about.

    Right here in Lemmy I had this interaction where someone argued that if one were to lose their photos because Google had an oopsie, it’s kind of their fault because they didn’t have a backup plan.

    [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I have had a comm literally dogpile me claiming linux wasn't designed for multi sessions or to run as a terminal server.

    My respect for lemmy foss forums is in the fucking toilet.

    [–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    there's a lot of people that hopped on the Linux train in the past few years. which is great, truly. but many of them don't understand where it came from or what it was originally designed to solve. particularly on lemmy, people are pretty up in arms about their opinions of Linux all the time, so I would bet whichever comm was doing that is mainly the new heads. again, love that it's getting mainstream recognition but I wish the combative attitude was at least tabled until they actually understand it.

    the recent debate of systemd in here kind of drove home that a lot of people just parrot points without having their own thought out opinions.

    [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

    Oh let's be honest, elitism has always been baked into linux a bit. Remember the old joke about how to get help on a linux comm? Ask and get told to RTFM even if you detail a complex issue that demonstrates you have in fact read tf m. Say "linux sucks because you can't do X or Y like you can in windows" and they fall over themselves.....

    But yeah, the new batch of users are just...you want to gently grab them by the face and say "you're not fucking nero hacking the matrix because a command line interface doesn't make you shit your pants any more my dude. Stop acting like it."

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    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

    My experience with the Linux communities here has been the opposite. Very welcoming, and very helpful.

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    [–] Strider@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Only Linux? ONLY Linux?

    It's the Gnu/Linux ecosystem with a shit load of software.

    (yeah which the average person has no idea about, proving the point in the comic 😁)

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    [–] sleet01@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

    Condescension means "patronizing attitude or behavior"; your comic doesn't show condescension so you probably need the dictionary definition spelled out.

    .../s

    [–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago

    That's why I try to show people I know how to get FOSS alternatives for their everyday apps. It takes a bit of patience but trust me when I say this: Most people are more tech savvy than you think, they just don't wanna go through a judging community.

    [–] Zacryon@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

    People should stop being condescending at all and regardless what it's about.

    [–] arcine@jlai.lu 9 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    Okay but litterally everyone knows about Firefox.

    I'm willing to concede some people don't know about Linux. But I've never met anyone who didn't know about Firefox.

    [–] lambipapp@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

    Everyone uses VLC still right? ... Right?

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

    "Why does your google look like that"

    [–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The vast majority of people I work with in my organization have absolutely no idea what Firefox is or that there are other browsers. You, me, and everyone here is living in a bubble.

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    [–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

    The Kim Jong side eye is great, almost like the Fry futurama meme.

    But those notepads. Always with the notepads.

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