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    foss nerds stop being condescending to those who don't know the same things you do challenge (impossible) (files.catbox.moe)
    submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    alt textAn edit of xkcd 2501, "Average Familiarity":
    [Ponytail and Cueball are talking. Ponytail has her hand raised, palm up, towards Cueball.]
    Ponytail: Open-source alternatives are second nature to us foss nerds, so it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows Linux and one or two degoogled Android ROMs.
    Cueball: And Firefox, of course.
    Ponytail: Of course.

    [Caption below the panel]
    Even when they're trying to compensate for it, experts in anything wildly overestimate the average person's familiarity with their field.

    partly inspired by the replies to this post but i see this kind of thing all the time (shoutout to the person who once genuinely asked "who still uses google these days?")

    made with this neat tool

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    [–] sleet01@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

    Condescension means "patronizing attitude or behavior"; your comic doesn't show condescension so you probably need the dictionary definition spelled out.

    .../s

    [–] Jaimesmith@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

    The β€œwho still uses Google?” crowd forgets most people just want their computer to work, not become a weekend side quest.

    [–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

    That's why I try to show people I know how to get FOSS alternatives for their everyday apps. It takes a bit of patience but trust me when I say this: Most people are more tech savvy than you think, they just don't wanna go through a judging community.

    [–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago

    [–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 48 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (9 children)

    The other day my wife was talking about her new job and having to take notes. For the past 30 years I've been keeping notes in text, then markdown in vim, starting with personal scripts, then vimwiki. A coworker showed me Obsidian, which while not FLOSS, does use an open standard for all its files. It pretty much does what my setup does.

    Then it dawned on me that my wife and other non-techies just use whatever their computer has on it by default (i.e. OneNote). She never thought to go out and look for better productivity software. The idea that there is tons of better apps out there doesn't register. She has a phone, knows about the app store and gets tons of stuff there but as for her desktop or laptop the idea of apps outside of MS Office and the video games she plays is lost on her.

    [–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    I feel obligated to mention Logseq here. It's similar to obsidian, but FLOSS (AGPL-v3).

    [–] Deebster@infosec.pub 2 points 6 hours ago

    I have a love-hate relationship with Logseq. I fantasise about rewriting it to better suit my needs, but it's definitely a lot of work to do this for both desktop and Android.

    [–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    I've tried it before and I like the concept but in my head I struggle using something not directly how it was intended. I want content rich notes, not just bullets. Yes logseq has support but it just feels wrong for some reason.

    If it was around two jobs ago when I was just copying lots of meetings I would have been all over it.

    Also I never was able to get Logseq and syncthing to work. I doesn't seem to let files be modified in the background and would lock up.

    [–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

    I found Logseq to be pretty confusing honestly. I ended up settling on Trilium.

    [–] BigTwerp@feddit.uk 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

    All my work computers are provided by the companies I work for and per their rules I can only take and store notes using their approved software and on their servers which basically means I work on a locked down Microsoft ecosystem. Access to third party productivity software is simply not possible outside of certain role specific specialist software.

    I would guess literally millions of employees have a similar setup so it's not that we are tech illiterate per say, but more accurately in the corporate world this option doesn't exist so there is no point trying.

    Outside work my productivity tools consist of a Moleskine notebook with tasteful check paper.

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    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 19 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    They just want to get the job done. The fact that they considered a note-taking app at all isn't universally normal. To this day my wife sends me messages in signal as a post-it to remember things, she could have just sent it to herself, but she used to do the same in sms and just applied that forward after I convinced her security was a good step.

    We want the best, the nicest, the most useful thing. We apply the same rigor most non-technies use when choosing a car.

    They want to fill a need that, at worst, bothers them a little.

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    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Honestly OneNote is pretty good for the people who like it though. I personally really can't stand rich text editing, I really need a raw view. If I didn't have those reservations I'd probably like OneNote more.

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    [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    Judging by how huge share of browser usage Firefox has, I am pretty sure vast majority of normies know nothing about Firefox

    [–] linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    lots of people know about firefox, they would just never use it.

    [–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

    1 million of people is a lot. 1 million out of 8 billion is not so much.

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