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Weight gain as adult increases cancer risk by up to five times, research shows (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hate these studies. They're always just based on correlations, and ignores the elephant in the room: class. How wealthy you are, how wealthy the area you live in, those factors have the highest impact on health outcomes, but the mainstream media (which is owned by the ruling class) will never be honest about that. So they just find correlations that let them blame poor people for having shitty diets.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You hate these studies because they don't specifically endorse your world view?

Most of the time, these studies are looking for the mechanical causes of the problem, not the socio-economic conditions that led to those mechanisms being present. So if smoking or getting fat increases cancer risk, that will be true regardless of what's in your bank account.

Also, these are cancer researchers. Dealing with the structural poverty that leads to the adverse health outcomes is way outside their expertise.

[–] Footer1998@crazypeople.online 3 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Without doxing myself, I have expertise in this topic. It's not a matter of my world view, it's a matter of science and communication.

It is very unlikely that human adiposity leads to increased cancer risk directly. It is correlational, not causational. Human adiposity itself, isolated from compounding factors, has a complex relationship with health outcomes, and not at all the linear correlation where more fat = more bad that the mainstream likes to pretend.

We know that certain foods, particularly animal products, especially cheaper animal products, lead to cancers, heart disease, etc. This is most likely explanation for the results in this study. But yet again we have yet another study uselessly pointing out a correlation which is unhelpful for actually solving public health issues and continues to encourage the passing of the blame to those in society who have the least responsibility for their situation.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 4 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Does visceral fat not produce inflammatory substances, which might be a cause for some problems - potentially including a higher risk for cancer?
Maybe I've read misleding articles. I hope you have some info about that.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

Plus more biomass = more chances of something getting cancer in there somewhere.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 2 points 55 minutes ago

i'm kinda convinced that obesity is mostly caused from some obscure and poorly-understood mental health condition. i remember reading that people who are depressed have a much higher rate of drug abuse. well, that might seem obvious. but excessive eating can be seen as a drug as well. it's not healthy, people do it as a coping mechanism. so it's really more like bad mental health -> excessive eating -> sickness, but it's more the bad mental health that causes it all and not so much the excessive eating itself. like, if you were mentally healthy but still ate a lot, then the eating wouldn't hurt you so much. it's really more the mental health issues, i suspect, though it's difficult to study that because the mental health issues aren't really measurable so well. they're deep inside.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Who would have thought that getting fat would lead to adverse health outcomes?

/s (just in case people miss it)