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The uneducated don't ask questions or suspect they're being taken advantage of. This is by design.
I'm dumb and poorly educated, but i still don't like dumpy mcshitpants.
Skill issue, not dumb enough
Fun fact on why Missisipi, of all the places, improved: they introduced a law that a child cannot be promoted to next year if they do not pass reading proficiency test.
Who knew the shame of repeating a year can be motivator enough for kids and parents.
it’s more than that: they’ve been hiring literacy coaches to sit in on and improve literacy classes across the state and rating schools while double-counting the performance of the bottom 25%. plus lots of testing
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/10/podcasts/the-daily/mississippi-schools-test-scores.html

COVID stole a year or two of schooling for students in poorer families.
I suspect a big reason for this can be blamed on the US no longer teaching kids to read with the phonics method (learning how yo sound out words by individual letters), and instead have been teaching a method to figure out what a word means with context clues, but many kids cannot sound out an unfamiliar word since they weren't taught the phonics method.
Only now are states beginning to reverse that in an attempt to reverse reduced literacy rates, which will take some time to have a noticeable effect.
In a 2019 interview, Goodman responded to criticisms of three cueing, saying that "word recognition is a preoccupation" and emphasizing that he places greater value on making sense of language as a whole than understanding specific words. In response to the example of children failing to distinguish between "pony" and "horse", Goodman argued that it was irrelevant whether children understood the specific word, as "pony" and "horse" are similar concepts, and a reader failing to distinguish between them would still understand the meaning of the story as a whole.
Absolute nightmare
He’s literally describing what people with functional illiteracy do to work around being unable to read at a working level. He’s describing it as an acceptable goal. Batshit crazy.
That's some ponyshit reasoning.
Similar trends are observed in other countries, so the explanation isn't US-specific.
Instead, it's simpler: kids read less than they used to, and when they do, it's social media-tier.
A big part of the issue is a lot of states abandoning “phonic” based teaching for “whole language”. In phonics the focus is on teaching how letters come together to form the sound of a word, while whole language is based on just memorizing the pronunciation of words. kids being taught how to sound out words will take longer to get to a point of being able to read out short simple text, but whole language can get them reading simple stuff with all the words they’ve already been taught very quickly.
The problem is that when you move past simple stuff only using words they’ve memorized, a kid taught to sound out words will be able to figure out words they haven’t seen before, meaning that they can start to learn new words passively just by reading more complex books. The whole language taught kids need to learn every new word by instruction or by just guessing based on context, making it much harder and slower. It gets frustrating quickly and kids taught this way rarely develop a real interest in reading due to that difficulty.
They're not even taught how to use context or subtext to understand a word they don't know. It would actually be more helpful if they did instead of just letting them go ahead and invent an entire new meaning for words they don't know.
Damnit NYT, states have an abbreviation standard!
Journalists have always used the old postal abbreviations. It's part of the Associated Press style.
The NYT has its own style guide that doesn't always match the AP.
The GOP welcomes their future voters. The dumber they are, the better for Republican votes.
Sometimes I wonder if we should have a “learn to read” community where we post an article or short stories or excerpts of longer works with some comprehension questions and discuss in the comments. Where discussing what you think about a headline or article is forbidden and only discussion about what it actually says is allowed.
Some sort of online community for people to practice reading, especially critically so they practice skills like recognizing subtext, irony, themes, etc, could probably be cool
Unfortunately, the people on a text based platform like Lemmy probably have better than average reading skills. The people who need more help probably stick to video.
Also there's a surprising amount of anti-intellectualism, sometimes, where people say things like "it's just a story it doesn't have any deeper meaning!". Fundamental misunderstanding of how meaning works. (You don't find the correct answer. You make up an answer and justify it with the text.)
Some states are missing?
If they could read, they'd probably be really mad about that.
Per the article:
The data includes third- through eighth-grade test scores for districts in 40 states and the District of Columbia, as of the end of last school year. It accounts for about 68 percent of U.S. school districts nationwide. (Ten states were excluded, among them New York and Illinois, because of high opt-out rates or noncomparable data.)
Oddly, only 38 states + DC in the graphic shared here
Also in Europe. It's obviously related to unrestricted internet use and smart phone proliferation.
For the first time in a long time, we're having generations that are dumber than their parents.
Something I've also noticed lately. Basic fucking math. I more often than not pay in cash, and recently I've had more than one person at more than one place give me incorrect change. And just not like a few cents, but dollars amount wrong. And when I try correcting them they're so adamant they're right even when I'm like... dude, you owe me 50 cents, not 3 dollars.
Regular readers of /r/teachers are not surprised. Teachers have been sounding the alarm for decades, as they still are.
Also, if you love your kid, you'll teach them to read. I mean books, real books, long books, no pictures, "chapter books" (which was a term I'd never heard till recently. Because, of course, books have chapters, why would one need to differentiate between... oh.) Read to them, read with them, talk about books with them, take them to the library, and take them to the book store. Give them books as presents.
Soon in the red states, it will be a badge of honor to be illiterate. Tr*mp loves the poorly educated bigly.
I wish I could remember the quote instead of my shitty paraphrase "These people act like education is a trap they avoided, instead of something they failed"
In a country where higher education is a debt trap, that kinda makes sense.
Not a single mention of food insecurity or nutrition in student outcomes, despite the fact that BEFORE the economy went sideways due to this stupid ass war 20% of homes with children were food-insecure. Only the deepest level of reporting from the NYT 🙄
Less education funding. Inflation. Schools closing. Low teacher pay. Large class sizes. National funding being tied to standardized testing.
Whenever school funding is on the ballot in my state, it rarely passes. Kids and teachers do not have the resources they need to be successful and it will continue to get worse until the president makes it a point to improve it. This is far from a new problem though. The government wants our nation to be full of people with below average intellect. I don't see any other reason not to invest in everyone's future.
The US is working its way toward illiteracy. Republicans need this to install a permanent set of oligarchs in the government.
When I was in junior high they decided we weren't reading enough. So for 40 minutes or so after lunch we had a reading period where everyone just read novels. Might be a good idea again.
"Video is the future. If it's not on youtube, people don't care."
Reaping what the internet has been sowing for the past decade.
Screens. Its screens. Dont give them a device. Give them a book and have the teacher teach them how to read. Slow them down and remove distractions.
I love mobile tech. I've been using it for years, I've advocated for its use, recommended it to others, helped many set it up. And as much as I really HATE to say it, I was wrong.
To be fair- the problem isn't the tech, the problem is the applications- social media 'scrolling' apps and short form video to be specific. But these days those apps are basically impossible to separate from phones and iPads.
And when the asshole algorithm based attention seekers (Meta, TikTok, Google, etc) came around, I and those like me had given them all a direct mainline IV into peoples eyeballs. We had good intentions- we never wanted mobile tech to become this. We never saw it coming. But we should have.
Unfortunately @Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world, at this point I think your answer is the only one we've got left. I've seen what passes for 'kid friendly' on an iPad- bright colors, happy music, think CocoMelon in an app. It pushes every dopamine button in a young brain. Or worse, short form videos- we let our kids spend 6 hours a day watching 30 second videos, and then wonder why they can't focus in class for more than 45 seconds. Yeah there's no porn, but it might as well be digital crack cocaine for the brain.
So yeah, at this point I think for our own good we need to roll this back like a failed update. Go back to dead-tree books and textbooks, or at the very least, downgrade to E-Ink or monochrome LCD so the screen is less engaging than the real world, not more.
Finally, and most importantly, we need to re-evaluate our relationship with boredom. Boredom sucks, but it also leads to inspiration and creativity. Scrolling apps essentially eliminate boredom, because however much time you have to kill, there's always more content to fill it. And I think that's a bad thing- we need a little boredom.
New Mexico didn't even need to defend their position, but they did anyway. True goat right there
Did you mean across the U.S.?