10/10 technical marvel 0/10 everything else

Papyrus...

I'm not a big Avatar fan, but you make a compelling case. Extra points for a B5 reference.

The morally-gray stories CAN be good, but not in the hands of most modern movie/streaming writers who somehow all seem to have gone to the school of "Trust me bro, I'm somehow better than the internationally acclaimed author who wrote the IP I've been handed" with a major in "mystery boxes" and minor in "identity IS character".

I’m genuinely surprised the sequels are making money

The second one did well, but the third made half what the second made. I dont expect we'll see a fourth

I agree. Understanding that the visuals might be highly regarded, I truly don't know of anyone in my network who goes to see these sequels. It makes me wonder if the numbers for viewership are inflated.

Almost all of my memory of the original Avatar:

I went to see it with my girlfriend at the time, and she kept reaching into our bag of popcorn, getting engrossed in the movie and just leaving her hand in there, so if I wanted popcorn I'd scritch at her wrist with my fingertips.

There's a point in the movie where it does this big heavy fade to black. It's near or beyond the midpoint of the film, and someone in the theater said "Act two." and half the audience cracked up.

Jake Sooolly.

People talk about the spectacular CG effects, I really only remember one scene, Native Chick takes Jake Sooolly for a walk in the woods at night and everything's glowing. That scene was striking. Most of the rest of the movie is stored in my brain as visual sludge.

I also remember the news talking about people being upset that they couldn't be tall sexy blue cat people.

Is it just one guy with a problem with it or something

Its the far right again, they hate anything with empathy. Theres not a lot of news about this but the Bluey TV shoe gets a lot of hate from them too, and for the same reason.

Beowulf animated is dope, though. Anthony Hopkins kills it, as does the actor for Beowulf. And Grendel.

Let's not forget the extent to which these movies have inspired people to bitch about them on the internet. If that's not a cultural impact I don't know what is.

Okay, yes, true, but they also constructed the entire N'avi language, created a fuckton of lore about the planet, and thoroughly fleshed out the lore and design of Earth and its voyage to and from Pandora.

This wasn't a visual feast made for the viewer, this was a feast made to employ all these skilled artisans in a massive production, and EVERYONE except the writers fucking blew it out of the water.

But that's the whole point. The highest-grossing movie of all time was a popcorn flick with zero cultural impact. That's exactly what this meme is saying. How are people misunderstanding this?

And that's perfectly fine if you like that kind of movie. But people who don't like that kind of movie have no reason to watch these

exactly. expectation determines your enjoyment. movies often get slammed for doing exactly what they were trying to do.

Jason Statham movies won't move you emotionally, horror movies won't make sense, just watch it for what it is

These are movies you only want to watch in the theatre with 3D, and cultural impact requires the youth to obsessively re-watch the media at home.

It was just Pocahontas with aliens.

3 is honestly closer to 1, but I love all of them and love ole Jimmy Cammy and am along for whatever ride he decides to take me on

2 and 3 are the same movie. I came for the bombastic spectacle, I watched it in 4D with moving seats, steam machines and a wind tunnel and I had a good time. I knew the story would be forgettable trash and with the right expectations I had a good time.

not long enough between 2 and 3.

You're wrong about that. It's exactly enough (maybe even too long) given they're the same exact movie.

I mean, 1 didn’t make me crave sequels, even if they were soon available.

It was a fun action movie, sure. A visual spectacle. But not a world I felt invested in.

The fauna was beautiful and well-thought out EXCEPT for the Navi because four-armed, collar breathing bipeds would probably won't feel human enough for the target audience

I guess I need to watch Avatar.

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