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[–] DependentFeature3028@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Oh boy the reddit imperialists are angry with this one

[–] GimmeUrBelt@lemmy.today -4 points 6 hours ago

Well, that's an insta-block.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 43 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (12 children)

From the latest Perceptions of Democracy index, from NIRA Data:

Ukrainians are among the most skeptical of the democratic processes in their country. Meanwhile, even a country as hotly contested as Venezuela, faith in elections is skyrocketing. And this is gathered by a western org run by a NATO official.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canceling elections is totally fine if it's our guy

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What part of martial law do you not understand?

A country being invaded can be and will be overthrown if possible. In fact, it's been done many times in European imperialist history.

That's why the clause exists, even before democracy was normalized in Europe. Just find someone else in line for procession and install a puppet prince.

It's even been abused. Some speculate that Trump would trigger martial law to stay in office - or even Netenyahu himself clinging to power.

In the end you don't want a captured government. That's also historically been really bad.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Ukraine already has a captured government. 😜

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see any blue states going along with any potential attempts by Trump to cancel the election. There is literally nobody who is going to invade mainland USA in the next 3 years. It's just not in the cards. In Ukraine, women my age notice that 10% of their dating pool is gone (dead, moved abroad, missing?). The average US citizen is going to experience whatever obvious false flag, just something less impactful than 2020s "wearing masks", even if that's literally a drone strike from Latin America, and they're going to cancel elections over it?

[–] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

I still think their play is that if Trump is succeeded by another Republican or if Trump himself becomes too unpopular, they coup him, and we wind up with a military junta. The libs would be so busy applauding their 'saviors' that they wouldn't even notice their rights being taken away until it's too late. I think the capitalists are tired of democracy, and want to be able to drop the pretenses without ceding control.

[–] astar26@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just for factual correctness (don't actually care about your opinion) - no Israeli election was cancelled. Bibi himself lost an election in 2020.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine being less democratic than Israel is not the gotcha its supporters expected

[–] astar26@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As I said, not going for any gacha. Also not versed enough on Ukraine politics to comment. Just saying that no Israeli election was cancelled (we're going to have one in a couple of months).

Decided a while ago I don't want to get into internet arguments, big waste of time which can be used for more significant things.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

I didn't even meant to argue, just wanted to put it into perspective for lurkers. We could even go further and note that there is huge support for genocide in various forms and methods in Israel, but Zelensky got explicitly elected on his promises of deescalating and stopping the civil war.

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