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The U.S. campaigned to host the World Cup. Now soccer fans will trade their countries' train system for the U.S.'s 'D' rated infrastructure | Fortune (fortune.com)
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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What I cannot understand is how so many of my fellow Americans actually like it this way. And I get that a lot of it is ignorance and status quo bias, but you don't have to visit, or even know about, the places with great transportation infrastructure to know that ours sucks.

You're only options to get anywhere are drive or fly and both suck and are expensive, uncomfortable and inconvenient. I mean, I've never visited any of the world's great transportation areas. I've never experienced that first hand, but I've sure as hell driven around the US and I absolutely fucking hate it. Traffic, asshole drivers, crumbling infrastructure yet somehow also constant road construction, getting anywhere in this country is a pain in the ass.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Traveled around the world a lot.. The US isn't anywhere near the best as you say. It's also not the worst. It's just heavily car oriented and fuck-everything-else oriented (except maybe air travel but... TSA).

I can say that living in a big city with mobile phone payments on every form of public transport, and a highly reliable on-time system that's always clean and free of people you would worry about being alone with... Is a beautiful thing. And seriously reduces the friction for all kinds of things like...going to work. The countries like this usually don't have much traffic and therefore deliveries and other legitimate uses of the road are frequently unobstructed. But on the other hand, these places can be extremely dense and the people live on top of each other.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There are many regions of the US denser than areas in europe with good transportation. People try to explain away the US system by pointing out a few low density areas and say "see these 3 big empty areas in the center? All these differences are necessary" but its sort of a outlier situation run amok. Most of the US IS comparable to europe or asia and we've once again let ourselves be content with "American Exceptionalism" by another name.

The reality is just the US developed much of its infrastructure (1940s-1960s) with car companies basically calling the shots during that era and a lot of places in the US still are struggling to overcome 60+ years of laws and budgets more or less written by the car manufacturers themselves after their WW2 high where their competitors overseas all got bombed to hell.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago

The reality is just the US developed much of its infrastructure (1940s-1960s) with car companies basically calling the shots during that era

The reality is the USA had public transport systems that were criminally dismantled by the car cartels.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a documentary.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 56 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

No, they won't. Because they are not going there.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Qatar 2022 should be proof enough that they probably will, and in huge numbers. Football fans don't care. You could host the world cup in literal hell and the tickets would still sell out.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 51 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Although Qatar is also a shithole, they were smart enough to not scare the visitors. Magastan is actively telling the world that the maga gestapo will deport any "alien" to fuck knows where.

Going to magastan right now means you are just one angry gravy seal away from ending deported in a country you don't even know.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This.

Plus the crazy magastan prices for everything, and plenty of hotels and tourism industries in the host cities are crying that reservations are low, that World Cup is a "non event" for them when we are just weeks away of the event.

I believe we will see rather empty stadium with zero ambiance and most spectators will probably be locals that call football soccer.

Then ICE will molest a Euro football star because he’s black so teams will boycott the US and only play in Mexico and Canada.

This is going to be the greatest fuckup of history, nobody is fucking shit up like that. I can’t wait.

[–] Apollo98@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

As funny as that would be I bet that this event goes off without a hitch. Like ⅔ of the planned transit projects are already delayed, though.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Qatar used slave labor to build their stadiums. Football fans looked the other way. They will also ignore the gestapo and the wars US started. My bet is also on full stadiums.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

The slaves didn't really affect them directly though. They were all sent back to the camps by the time the event started.

Getting stopped at the border and having some jackboots rifle through your phone and social media is a little more in your face.

I don't think for a minute though that those stadiums won't be filled. There are more than enough people world wide to fill events like this with out issue.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The difference is one potentially directly affects them and one doesn't. You cant just look away if youre being hauled off somewhere. However, I still think the stadium will be full

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 18 hours ago

I agree there's a difference but it's not going to stop Football brained fans from going. If they were thinking rationally they would boycott this disgusting spectacle of corruption decades ago.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You could host the world cup in literal hell

world cup hosted in uk confirmed

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 7 points 22 hours ago

We dont have the money to pay fifa off to get it

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 17 hours ago

Pretty sure they’d speak Fr*nch in hell.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

You don't want to miss the chance to see FIFA's home field!

[–] nicpicname@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

I wish.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 points 23 hours ago

I almost hope they do. I've got popcorn ready.

[–] konna@sopuli.xyz 41 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Great article, absolutely blows my mind that people really live like this. I just visited Edinburgh where I walked over 10km every day. The american mind can’t comprehend this.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm an American and walk 10km almost every day here in Chicago. The American mind definitely comprehends this.

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 20 points 20 hours ago

I'm an American in the deep South. Most of our roads don't have sidewalks. Unless I make an effort, and walk in the road, I could easily have under 2000 steps a day. 😐

[–] CactusEcho@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

That's a lot of walking to reach a bus stop!

Joking 😉

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

“I hope it leaves Americans more supportive of investing in infrastructure. That would be a good outcome.”

Hopefully...

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know how many tickets have been sold? Would be interesting if it was actually able to turn off soccer fans from coming.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 2 points 10 hours ago

I did recently see an article saying hotel bookings were way down, far too low compared to what was expected.

Ticket sales were fine due to touts of course.