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You know something goes too far when Google, and Meta speak out against it.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You know it's bad when fucking google says it's too much spying.

[–] f3nyx@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

harder to sell our data if just anyone can waltz in and steal it

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Forgot where I heard it now. But somebody said if the literal ass 1930's Stasi saw modern surveilence, they would blush and tell us we're taking this a little too far.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A 1930s what now?

These guys. You can't really call them the OG surveilence agency. That goes back 1000's of years. But the idea of the quote is this. If they saw the pure scale of modern surveilence... The enormity of it. Even they would say "nah come on be reasonable guys." Like Google here with C-22.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like somebody skipped their history class, back in the 30s you would've had Gestapo or Abwehr because Germany was fascist at the time.

The Ministry for State Security (German: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit, pronounced [minɪsˈteːʁiʊm fyːɐ̯ ˈʃtaːtsˌzɪçɐhaɪt]; abbreviated MfS), commonly known as the Stasi (pronounced [ˈʃtaːziː] ⓘ, an abbreviation of Staatssicherheit), was the intelligence service and secret police of East Germany (the German Democratic Republic or GDR) from 1950 to 1990.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I got the date wrong from memory. Doesn't change the point tho.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

It does illustrate how the whole moral high ground the west claimed over the Soviet bloc was always just a veneer.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

"Don't have them spy on you, only we should!"

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

You know something goes too far when Google, and Meta speak out against it.

They also spoke against the denial of the volunteer Chat Control in the EU and said they will do it anyway (likely illegal).

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So hey Canadians... spare a thought for your clueless friends to the south! Is there a good chance C-22 fails to pass? What's the lowdown?

I've read a couple stories about the bill. But they only talk about everybody who hates it. Signal, Apple, etc. I haven't seen any analysis of the political situation. Like, if there might be enough MPs aligned against it to torpedo it.

^Err...^ ^MPs^ ^vote^ ^on^ ^it,^ ^right?^ ^Sorry.^ ^Clueless^ ^yank.^

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[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This started as part of C-2, a strong border bill. Specifically sections 14 and 15. It didn't get the votes and failed because of 14 and 15. It was later reintroduced as two bills, a border bill and a lawful access bill.

C-22 is a tamer version of sections 14 and 15 in C-2. The Liberals have a majority so they may have the votes.

Several parts of this bill violates The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and I'm hoping the courts will kill the bill.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I have a notion that your political system is less crazy dysfunctional than ours. So... got my fingers crossed for a good outcome.

I found this, with transcripts of the debate. https://openparliament.ca/bills/45-1/C-22/

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

You are very welcome. Thanks for the link.