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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'd argue there is (at least) one exception. Neal Morse. Yeah, the lyrics in his solo projects are all "hallelujah" but he really makes some good music.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Are you saying AI art...It can take me higher? To a place where blind men see?

[–] ReluctantlyZen@ani.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Nah. There are a lot of bad Christian rock/metal bands, but there are quite a few good ones too.

To name some I still come back to, even though I no longer identify as a Christian:

  • Skillet is an obvious one (not my thing anymore, especially everything after Awake, but can't call them bad)
  • Silent Planet
  • August Burns Red
  • Underoath (well, they used to be)
  • Fit For A King
  • Wolves At The Gate (though their lyrics can be too much on the nose)
  • Flyleaf (when Lacey Sturm was still on board)
  • Love & Death
  • Children 18:3
[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How did you literally forget Reliant K?

[–] ReluctantlyZen@ani.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Cause I never listened to them for some reason

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just going to tack a few more on here so I can find some of yours later, but I'd like to add:

Nine Lashes, which are probably more overt than some

Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, for the entirety of Don't You Fake It, and a few other songs

Red

Demon Hunter

Switchfoot, don't @ me Dare You To Move is a banger

Disciple

Pillar

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[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 hours ago

I like Half Alive

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Audio Adrenaline - Underdog slaps

I am ready for my punishment.

*edit to link dbz amv

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

Christian rock?

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

That's why Jesus used analogies.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I just hate it when I find a new song that sounds like a tragic story of the loss of a loved one just to find out it's actually about their love for god.

It just feels so cringey to me 🥴

[–] catboy_slim@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Or you think it's divorced dad rock and it's actually about the devil

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I liked mxpx back in the early 2000s. when I found out they were a Christan punk band I stopped listening to them.

who the fuck makes a Christan punk band?? wankers, that's who.

1000003991

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 2 points 2 hours ago

You're missing out on some crazy vicar riffs bruv

[–] bold_omi@lemmy.today 8 points 7 hours ago

There are definitely exceptions. But this is often true.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm an atheist, but Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit In The Sky" is a banger.

Otherwise yeah, this meme nails it.

[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I also like some religious music, I think the key is that the music needs to be interesting with zero pandering.
At the risk of turning this into a "not religious, but..." music recommendation thread: I've enjoyed mewithoutYou for a long time now. They have a subdued art-rock sound, and I even enjoy a lot of their more overtly religious songs like "In a Sweater Poorly Knit" and "The King Beetle On A Coconut Estate."
Mewithoutyou - "Cattail Down"

[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Creepy though.

When I die and they lay me to rest,
I'm going to go to the place that's the best.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 hours ago

I actually looked up the song after I commented. Apparently Norman is Jewish and wrote the song after watching a gospel performance and said "Hey, I could do that." He then wrote the lyrics in 15 minutes....

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't Skillet kinda fine?.....

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

the key ingredient is they don't only sing about Jesus. See also: Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. Mainstream audiences don't generally mind christian themes so long as that band is being true to themselves rather than making common denominator slop.

i mean… look at all the music that came from Motown records before 1985. not all of those musicians and acts were devoutly christian, but a lot of them were

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

I think you nailed it. I don't mind the Christian songs of Black Sabbath. They are just true to themselves and sing what they want to sing.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's already cringe when the youth pastor shows up with his acoustic guitar, and there's really no need to also bring electricity into this.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 minutes ago

I like those guys. Our existence is too short to waste it worrying about how cool people will think we are, and they're ironically making the most of theirs. They're out there having fun playing music.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (5 children)

I have a soft spot for Creed sometimes, but it's not exactly like they disprove this statement.

Edit: huh, apparently they aren't a Christian rock band. Could've fooled me.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Scott Stapp the vocalist and lyricist is a Christian and his solo albums are outrightly spiritual in theme.

Something you would have to grow up in the church to understand is how controversial a lot of "Christian bands" actually were in Christian circles. Like the pushback against music with scream vocals was real.

It was a genuine wedge issue because churches used professional audio/lights to attract members with polished modern rock worship music. Music became so intertwined that it led to all non christian music being labeled "secular".

Bands like Creed didn't fit either label but generally was considered acceptable listening material in the church circles I grew up in. Most objections were genre based.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

That's one of those where they became so mainstream that they don't want to name it, but they definitely make Christian rock.

Apparently, Higher is about lucid dreaming, but he's also dreaming of biblical Heaven:

Can you take me higher
To a place where blind men see
(Isaiah 29:18-19)
Can you take me higher
To a place with golden streets
(Revelations 21:21)

"My Sacrifice" is about Scott's struggle with alcoholism, but speaks of a person who gave him love and who he implies he repeatedly reunites with "in their mind." That's Jesus bro.

"One Last Breath" drops a capital-H "His grace" referring to God, "With Arms Wide Open" mentions praying, "What If" references Matthew 7:16-17, etc.

It seems quite a few of their songs are "actually" about something else, but totally allegorical to Christian belief. And idk what that makes you other than a Christian rock band.

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[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Creed is an honorary Christian rock band, which is 1000x worse than a normal one.

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 167 points 18 hours ago (6 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

When I was a preacher I did a sermon based on that episode. It's such an accurate picture of a teenager finding a social group that happened to be at church. And Hank accurately calls out how shallow that kind of social faith is.

At the end of the episode, Hank pulls out a box of crap from fads Bobby had been into and talked about how he didn't want Bobby's spirituality to end up in that box.

For millions of people, church is basically a club where they meet with their friends, and since the church is still the most racially segregated place in America, that's a problem.

The "Christian Club" mentality is what allowed the rise of the religious right, when churches should be vocal about justice for the the sick, the poor, and the foreigners.

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