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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Damn we're really sticking it to Google by repeatedly using their service to try to one-up each other's screenshots. We should keep doing that and sharing the screenshots which will convince more people to do the same. They'd hate getting those usage metrics!

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Interestingly, it would probably do a better job of writing a piece of code to count how many T's there are, and then reading output of that.

Yeah, it's pretty efficient at that. When the strawberry version was around, CGPT wrote some python and executed it after asking it programatically

[–] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 hours ago

This is why the steam deck is $1,000 btw

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

I'll never tire of LLM aneurysms.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 15 points 6 hours ago

"Coloniatism" is my favourite

[–] ghurab@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago
[–] Redditisbollocks@feddit.uk 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And this shit is "taking people's jobs"

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[–] Guttural@jlai.lu 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is this actually real though?

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Just tested with similar results, output was:

There are exactly 2 't's in the word 'colonialism'. C-o-l-o-n-i-a-l-i-s-m Would you like to check the spelling or character count of any other words? Let me know!

[–] Guttural@jlai.lu 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, I didn't think it was still that stupid

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think this particular genre of stupid will ever be fully fixed in LLMs to be honest, it's fairly structural

[–] Guttural@jlai.lu 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

LLMs break words up into chunks of letters which commonly appear - suffixes like "-tion" and "-ism" are obvious examples. They then predict which chunk comes next based on the ones before, or whether the word will end.

This is very useful for generating sensible-looking text while at the same time correlating concepts associated with different words. However, it also means that the dont really "see" the letters that make up each word, just the chunks of letters, which are stored as mathematical vectors. This is why they struggle so much with analysing the makeup of words.

However, with numbers they generally store each digit individually, so they shouldnt have as much of a problem saying how many 5's are in 1,589,005, for example.

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Two very different answers to this question...

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Short youtube video explaining why tokenisation causes this bug. It's an older video, so it talks about tokens as being whole-word rather than chunks of words, which is how most modern models work.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7pQrMAekdn4

The other persons explanation doesn't acknowledge that emergent reasoning does kind-of exist in LLMs. That's why theyre able to say how many 5's are in a large number, despite never seeing that problem before. They dont 'just' repeat things they've been trained on, though they often do.

Of course, if that problem did exist significantly in the training data, it would be more likely to get it right. But you could say the same about any number of things an LLM doesn't know.

[–] Terminarchs@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Simply put, LLMs are great at forming sentences but can't do math. Like, any math. If they get 60+21=81 right, it's only going to be because it's textually written somewhere in the training data that 60+21=81. However, it's very unlikely for counting the number of Ts in colonialism to be in there, so it just hallucinates what it thinks is a correct response.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

i seen without "thinking", it tells you if there is 2.
google's search ai does not have "thinking"
the looping thing i also seen before.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 109 points 21 hours ago (26 children)

We're destroying the environment for this folks

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[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It took several tries but I got one that looped. Most of the time it gives the "there are 2" and puts random arrows.

This used to happen on chatgpt with "Is there a seahorse emoji". Here's a video explaining why this happens.

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Wait the seahorse emoji is not real???

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