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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I worked for a company once that went IPO and we had stock units assigned to us.

CEO: Companies try to stay private for as long as they can, they don't just IPO for the hell of it. They're trying to solve a problem with money. Maybe they owe people money, maybe they need to spend a bunch of money to take the company to the next level. An IPO doesn't fix any problems; rather, it turns one set of problems into a bigger, harder set of problems.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 24 minutes ago

Founders try to cash in. They've raised the cow, now's the time to send it to the butcher for parts

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

As the Bloodhound Gang said: Lift your head up high, and blow your brains out.

*Whoops, that's confidentially, not confidently. Still.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Time to short the fuck out of them, I guess.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How does one do that and what does it mean?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 55 minutes ago

The actual definition of shorting is that you borrow shares, sell them, buy back when cheaper, then return. This has infinite downside because it could go up and you don't know how much and you're on the hook for the shares borrowed.

The thing most people on wallstreetbets and the like do, is buy "put" options. It's a stock option contract that gives you the option to sell a certain amount of stock for a certain price before a certain date.

Example: Company's share price is 1000$. You believe it will fall to 500$ because you think it's super overvalued. You buy a bunch of put options for a date after what you think is correct, for say 900$. Since the price is lower than the current price, the options are cheap. Once the stock price actually drops below 900$, it the options go up in value. You can now just sell the options instead of actually exercising them (which would imply buying cheap stock and selling it for the more expensive price in your option contract).

Options can go up or down in value significantly more than the underlying stock. Very easy to lose all the gambled money, but if you get lucky, you can multiply your money. But as they say, the house always wins. And we're not the house.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

You absolutely should do that.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Why do all these headlines say that a company "confidently" files for an IPO? I'm assuming it's just AI, but man is that tired and confusing.

[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Confidentially. I read confidently at first too.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

So they confidentially go public. Makes sense lol

[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Details of the IPO are being kept confidential.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I guess 'Slavering with greed' has too many letters.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Does the US Stock Market even mean anything anymore? It's been screwed and manipulated by so many people it's mostly a dead corpse that holds no real value for society anymore. Just a broken money tool of the rich.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think, at this point, it's really just like a dozen people trying to control the world via trading money that is essentially meaningless to them.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 3 hours ago

And holds peoples retirements and investments.

Since you have very few places to put money into that won't get eaten by inflation.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

i cant wait until the bubble bursts and every single ai company collapses

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I can. They're propping up the whole stock market at this point. Pretty much the definition of "too big to fail." So when they inevitably fail, Congress is going to give them our tax dollars.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

Congress is already giving them your tax dollars. They've gotten a number of tax breaks and subsidies.

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[–] Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

A company worth 4 billion has produced 5 billionaire..its all a crock. Apologies, thought we were talking of Palantir.

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let the unhinged enshitification begin!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Wait how can they make it worse?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Don't underestimate their creativity when it comes to making things worse for the plebs

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Well, they were one of the best of the turds. I was kind of hoping they'd stick around and be a mitigating force on the AI market that at least taps the brakes on all the bullshit. Seems unlikely now.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The usual IPO: layoffs, increase the price of the subscription, ads in the results.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 7 hours ago

But won't that be good thing as it'll make AI less appealing to middle managers who are basically the only people who actually want to use it.

[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 5 points 12 hours ago

By financially dragging anyone they can else they can in with them, in a desperate reach for riches. Or is it a desperate reach to try and cover their losses?

Probably both.

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Interesting. I thought companies usually waited until they at least had a good product or cashflow before going for enshittification.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It is odd that the 3 big players are trying to rush to IPO... probably to dump their shit and cash out before the bag holders have time to sell... I've got a feeling they know it's going to crash soon.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They have a lot less runway to enshittify than everything else we've seen recently. Because AI is way more expensive than anything else we've gotten for "free". Which means they're already on borrowed time.

Hopefully they get it over with sooner rather than later. The longer it takes, the more my retirement savings gets fucked.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Did the rule that allows 401k to be invested in stocks like this shit get passed? Cause that's going to fuck so many peoples retirement (mine included). And when these companies pop, we're going to be holding the bag.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The mutual funds in a typical 401k are just a bunch of stocks like this, wrapped up in a value meal package.

If you have a 401k, you probably already own stock in Nvidia, Tesla, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Meta, etc...

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

I know they're mutual funds but there was rules if I remember that didn't allow the 401k funds to be used for high risk stocks like these.

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[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Got to cash out their shares using your pension fund before they go bankrupt.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

they enshittified first before actually putting out a "product", also with so many AI ceos suddenly coming out trying to peddle some form of the "innovation, it got anthropoic nervous. Thiel, Karp, ALTMAN,google, MS,,,etc did it all the same time.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You forgot about option 3: VC money ran out

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

how can you file confidentially for a public offering?

that's like throwing a public party where you are expecting to make money off the cover charge but not telling anyone about it

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

First an IPO has to get SEC approval. A confidential filing means they send the information to the SEC without it being generally available. The public prospectus follows after approvals are given.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

good to know… thanks for the info

[–] jonathan@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Poor wording. The content of the filing is confidential, not the act of filing.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

But don’t the public investors need that info to decide? Like a prospectus?

I don’t know that much about IPOs. I’m just assuming.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, wanting to keep that private just seems shady and like it should be a major red flag

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

First the SEC and other authorities need to vet the offering. By filing confidentiality this initial stage is kept from competitors.

It means that instead of filing publicly 90-120 days ahead, they can hold off public prospectus to 21 days ahead of launch.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 6 hours ago

Well that's shady as fuck.

I had read confidently and was like I bet you smug bastards.

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