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Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[–] AIgirl@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Opps I broke it....oh well.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

I don't know the purpose of this camera but sadly I have seen numerous driver battling against falling asleep, including on highways, so going faster than 100km/h on a 1ton machine.

You all might be excellent conscientious drivers who are horrified that the car might check on your ability to drive but I can tell you with 100% certainty that not all drivers, including otherwise very kind and caring people, are not always able to drive, yet still do so.

To be clear I am not advocating for any data to leave the car at any point. I'm only point that some usages of cameras pointing to the driver might be both beneficial to everybody and not be a privacy problem. How? Well detect the presence of eyes and if there is not, demand a conscious action (e.g. pressing a button) and if this does not work, increase stimulus, etc. This does NOT require any data from being sent to anybody.

Unrelated but I'm also for speed limiters for cars. I also do not think it's a privacy issue.

Still, to clarify, safety MUST be improved WITHOUT hindering on privacy of anybody involved.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's like, I'm all for guns existing, I even think every human should get a free assault rifle, because reality is rough and they're very useful.

Just as long as no one ever shoots each other. That should be totally off the table.

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[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I only think it's fair, to also have the driver be subject to surveillance, when they knowingly expose others to the car's exterior cameras.

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[–] vegafjord@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 months ago

Surveillance is good as long as we like the direction the machine is heading.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow. Your usage of commas is unique.

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