this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2026
6 points (87.5% liked)

No Stupid Questions

4145 readers
5 users here now

There is no such thing as a Stupid Question!

Don't be embarrassed of your curiosity; everyone has questions that they may feel uncomfortable asking certain people, so this place gives you a nice area not to be judged about asking it. Everyone here is willing to help.


Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca still apply!


Thanks for reading all of this, even if you didn't read all of this, and your eye started somewhere else, have a watermelon slice ๐Ÿ‰.


founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Someone was very lightly chiding me for saying Shia Leboef looked a very hard 39 remarking that they were 38 and it reflected badly on them.

Then I replied Shia sort of resembled Hunter Biden...

I cant trace my mental stack that led to that formulation

top 5 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] RegularJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An elliptical response is a concise utterance that omits words or phrases that are already understood from the context. It relies on the listener or reader to fill in the missing information.

https://exercisepick.com/what-are-elliptical-responses/

I'm not sure about orthogonal responses.

[โ€“] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought it was more eccentric but elliptical is something else i prefer to do to boil down a more complex response's points inwant based on that so good to know ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

[โ€“] lath@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In this case it might mean they've been consuming too much media and need to chill.

[โ€“] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What if all those things are synonamous?

[โ€“] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Elliptical answers (where most stuff is clipped, except a few words) usually mean what you'd expect, with the omitted info being usually inferrable by context.

  • [Alice] Hey Bob, did you see my notebook?
  • [Bob] Over the desk.

The full answer would be "Yes, I saw your notebook. It is over the desk". That's only implied, by Bob mentioning the location; not explicitly said. But Alice can easily infer "this is the location of the notebook", and that if Bob knows its location then yes, he saw it.

This pops up due to the co-operative principle, specially the maxims of relevance and clarity.

Now, orthogonal answers (where the "answer" doesn't answer the question, like in your example) are a bloody mess. I think they're mostly caused by a mismatch between context (shared by the participants of the conversation) vs. individual info (exclusive to one of the participants). I could see them happening fairly often in the situation from your example, where the "individual info" is the strain of thought one of the participants followed.

[Warning: take this with a grain of salt, this has a sample size of one] I'm also predicting they happen fairly often when one (but not both) of the speech participants is autistic. Autists in general don't rely as much on implicatures as neurotypical people do, so one side starts seeing implicatures where there's none, and the other doesn't catch them up. Re-using that example above:

  • [Alice] Hey Bob, did you see my notebook? (implied: "please, where's my notebook?")
  • [Bob, autistic] Yes, I did. (Alice's implicature was not addressed, so Bob answered her question literally.)

From personal experience, it drives both sides of the conversation crazy, until they backtrack to re-find the context. It helps a bit if you know the other side is autistic, though. (Sorry, I felt like rambling about this. It happened with me today.)