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Cars are like horses: people will soon realise EVs are just better, claims VW boss
(www.autoexpress.co.uk)
Only inbreds hate EVs.
Normal people simply hate tesla.
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2026
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You know what horse can do that no car, electric or not, can do?
You can get on a horse, or horse-drawn carriage, completely wasted drunk out of your mind, or high, or just too tired to drive. Tell horse "home" and he will go to the stable he came from, dragging you with it all the way.
Horses consume no gasoline, no diesel, they just eat literal grass and drink tap water. And their shit is often packaged and sold as fertilizer.
How the fuck in the times of high energy prices, both gas and electricity, people are not just turning back to horses is beyond me. Horses are economically viable and sound, just grab the horses from working type, not sport type. Smarter than AI, calmer than Trump (and more reasonable), grass-to-fertilizer converter, biological motorbike.
Horses are economically viable and sound
Ours sure is causing way more in vet bills than our car's lease, insurance and gas combined, while also unable to carry either of us anywhere. She'd also not go home, but to the next patch of greenery, whether or not she can eat it...
Bring back the days of perpetual stank!
Like our cities, full of cars and trash, do not stink already.
Unless the (public) charging infrastructure gets expanded massively, EVs won't become a valid alternative to most people. Not everyone owns a house where you can just slap your own wallbox onto it.
I owned an EV for 3 years while living in an apartment without charging possibilities. It's really not that big of a deal (in Munich at least).
No, they aren't. It's more like trading a donkey for a horse.
They are, in every area except infrastructure, range, and (in the US) affordable variety.
We now have 2 cars that use electricity to a varying degree (hybrid/phev) and it’s awesome. The fuel savings is immediate and obvious.
They say this whilst trying their best to make EVs the printers of the car industry. Update? The car stops and bricks itself for the duration of it. Want basic features? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the car you already payed for. Need it repaired? Have to bring it to a dealership with criminal prices because every part is serialized and they have you by the balls. Need a new battery after it kicks the bucket in 4-5 years? Expect to pay $10-20k for a new one. Oh and of course the center terminal/tablet is now crucial for the cars function, so anytime that malfunction it bricks itself again. Oh and it will always track and spy on you with GPS and onboard cameras and microphones.
I don't have any of that with my EV, certainly no subscription stuff, nor overcharging for service, because a service is significantly easier
Not to any degree different from in ICE vehicle
You're just spouting shit
I agree but realistically the only electric car you're getting without any of that is a Lunar Rover.
Horses are better than cars ! A horse is a vehicle and a pet at the same time !!
And other things too, depending on jurisdiction!
Hey, when a horse goes lame?
People aren't going to realize EV's are better until the can actually afford one.
Also, maybe one day America will get their heads out of their ass and realize that public transportation is better EV's.
You can get an EV for about 5k nowadays.
Agree on the public transportation, tho.
Remember when VW had hundreds of slaves in Brazil until like a year after I was born? That was pretty wild.
For those of you who are not as intimately familiar with potoooooooo's birthdate as I am: they had slaves until 1986
For those who want to know the bare minimum https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/volkswagens-brazil-unit-ordered-pay-30-million-decades-old-slave-labor-case-2025-08-29/
I don't see EVs ever becoming good for everywhere. Here it usually gets as low as -20 to -45 degrees in Celcius during winter so you'd need a heated garage at your home and another at your workplace to have an EV work well, or hell, even start. With an older car, you can just take the battery indoors for the night and pop it back in the morning and be on your way. And having a heated garage (and the cost of building EV's battery, building the car, shipping it) is already worse for the environment, so no, it will never work here.
Just developt the gas (gas as in gas, not benzin or diesel) and use them here, EV's where it's warmer all year around.
And no, fuck them Chinese spyware cars. And other spyware cars. Put the cameras up your ass.
I'm not sure really. EVs are huge in Scandinavia. Per capita, Norway even has he largest fleet of EVs in the world.
My EV gas a built-in heat pump to warm up during winter, so there's definitely solutions for colder regions.
Didn't they just charge a car in 12 minutes frozen to -20C? Soon this will be a non-issue. The real road block will be stopping these companies from turning electric cars into data-mining, subscription model machines. Laws will need to be passed posthaste.
The cold temperature issue is solved by Natrium-batteries. Give it a few more years, and we will see more cars having those kinda batteries.
It gets to -35C where I live during winter. I have an unheated garage and park outside while at work, I have an EV and definitely see a drop in range but it isn't large. I can still drive around 300 km on a fully charged battery while using heat.
I can get more range by being more sparing with my heat, if I just use my heated seats and steering wheel I can keep the heat on less and get about 50 extra kms. My trips are pretty short so a fully changed battery lasts me 3 weeks during summer and 2.5 weeks during during winter.
I mean battery tech is always improving, I don't see -45C as big of a roadblock as you make it out to be. There are already battery chemistries that work well at those temps. They just have to be scaled up and made cost effective.
To me this feels like scoffing at the first car because a horse had a higher top speed.
I can understand people sticking with horses more than I can understand sticking with ICE cars. A horse is an animal with a personality, you might feel like it's like losing a friend.
But why do people have so much sentimentality over having cars that have tailpipes?
I'm extremely attached to my motorbike
It's different to a car, because a bike becomes an extension of your body, you have to be in harmony with the machine
Cars are just cars
I could swap my ice car for electric and I'd be fine and it wouldn't bother me, but motorcycle engines actually do have personalities based on engine layout, cooling system, fueling methods (efi vs. carbs), transms etc, that I could never give up bikes for electric alternatives (also electric motorcycle makes literally zero sense if electric bicycle exists)
I have an electric bike for short trips but do enjoy driving my 6 speed car, and it's 12 years old, paid off for 7 of those years. I cannot imagine it's better to get another car and get rid of mine.
Can't imagine I am unusual. It's just a really big fleet and will take time to change.
And yeah this is probably my last but I will miss the vroom vroom and shifting the car myself.
I'm waiting for a used EV. I've never bought a new vehicle and have no desire to.
EVs have existed for 10+ years now. Plenty of used ones in the market, famously depreciated by now.
I wanted a used one, but I had to buy new
There are no second-hand models of my car for sale
People buy them, and then they keep them!
There wasn't a single one available second-hand in my state, and the backorders meant that had to wait three months for it to be built and shipped
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