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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now you can't even find the fucking thing when you need it. Thanks, "UX design".

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

UX, whatsat?

Also, it completely disappears after a second.

And why is it a different color on the addons page anyway??

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Is that add-on good?

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago
[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm partial to 2006

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with the high contrast of 1988?

It is at home in both light and dark mode

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My only criticism is lack of affordance on the slider. Is the dark part the slider or the light part? Some of the newer ones have the little ridges for "traction".

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The issue with 1988 is that it isn't intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 points 4 hours ago

2012? Elder? Cmon, it wasn't that long ago... wait... no...

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Definitely either 88 or 98. Large, very visible, no bullshit. I prefer 98, but would also be perfectly happy with 88. The reason I like 98 better than 88 is because 98, while not as high of contrast, is closer to if it's physically there, with shadows and stuff, and therefore visually faster recognizable as a scroll bar, it's more intuitive.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Give me 98 with the little lines of the next 3. I think it enhances noticeability quite a lot without adding a distracting amount of contrast

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago

Agree. 98 with grip would be my ideal.

[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

88, because it covers visually impaired better. That higher contrast pays off. But I remember you could do some color theming for the 98 version, so maybe it couldve been fixed in that regard. And I agree on the design being generally easier to understand.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

We've gotta bring back frutiger aero.

[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 34 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

My cursor kept slipping off them all the time anyway 😢

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 90 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it's 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that's about 2% darker than white.
Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

[–] M137@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

Some suck, sure, but some work well. The ones on MacOS are good IMO, and some android ones (while others absolutely suck).

[–] chisel@piefed.social 18 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's a few lines of css, no JS required.

.my-div:hover {
  overflow-x: scroll;
}

And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s the start menu that’s written in react.

[–] Starik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

I love how 1998 looks. It is clean and servers the purpose. 2001-2009 feel over designed, 1988 and 2012 not sure whether the dark part is the scroller or the light part lol.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

And then they got thinner every year while screens got wider..

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

But our eyes cant see more than a few pixels wide anyways!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

An endangered species

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

1988 still the best one, somehow

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

agreed. no embellishment, just design that makes the functionality obvious.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yeah, and then talentless hacks kept fucking with it for almost 40 years just for the sake of fucking with it. Enshittification marches on.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 39 points 8 hours ago

1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

imho the clustered version of the scroll bar buttons (like in Amiga Workbench 2.0+, Macintosh OS, macOS, KDE) make way more sense to me (minimal mouse movement to change scroll direction) than this spread out layout.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

OS X Lion apparently forgot to add the scroll bar entirely

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Hope somebody got fired for that epic blunder

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 3 points 7 hours ago

System 1 my beloved

[–] zonklezoop@lemmy.zip 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

2009, pls.

But I guess with the end caps from 2006.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

By 2026 AI does the scrolling for you, a feature made mandatory (all scrollbars removed) in 2028 😭

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And pauses for 30 seconds over each ad.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago

More profitable to deliver ads seamlessly without pausing but shown continuously all the while scrolling. 100% profits!🤑💸

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

From next year the government will be allowed to scroll for you if they deem it in the interest of national security

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

'98 to '09 was the sweet spot. Textures make the page slider easier to spot and use.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I miss that glass aesthetic from 2001

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Seems like it’s coming back

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

1998 was in my formative years with computers, so I will always be partial to it. Xfce can get pretty close.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Honestly I’m partial to it as well. Possibly for the same reasons, but also because the bar and buttons are clearly defined and have good contrast. The later designs begin to fade out until now the scroll bar is just a thin line, which is sometimes hidden, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it.

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 10 points 8 hours ago
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 8 hours ago

2009 was peak